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Wayward Soul

Your Blackened Sky

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is this illegal??? (i.e. counting cards while playing blackjack in a casino)

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Ming the Merciless

Royal Oak, MI

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Originally posted by genius
is this illegal???
It's illegal in Vegas, but not at RHP.

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Wayward Soul

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that sucks...but how can they prove you are counting cards? and is it only illegal in vegas??? (i'm reading the book "the summons" by john grisham where the guy spends some time in casinos...)

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Ming the Merciless

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Originally posted by genius
that sucks...but how can they prove you are counting cards? and is it only illegal in vegas???

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I don't know. That's just how it worked in the movie "Rain Man". They guessed that Raymond was counting cards and told him he couldn't play anymore. I'm not much of a gambler myself, I don't know if that's how it really works.😕

Frustrated...

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Counting cards is hard to do since most blackjack games in Vegas are done with an 8 deck shoot (no less than 5). It is only illegal if you use devices or bring someone in with you, such as in Rainman. If you remember, they let him keep his money since no devices were used. If one had been used, he would have been arrested and his winnings taken. But, if you have enough memory to do it on your own, counting cards is perfectly legal.

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MAP Challenger

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Originally posted by willatkins
Counting cards is hard to do since most blackjack games in Vegas are done with an 8 deck shoot (no less than 5). It is only illegal if you use devices or bring someone in with you, such as in Rainman. If you remember, they let him keep his money since no devices were used. If one had been used, he would have been arrested and his winnings taken. But, if you have enough memory to do it on your own, counting cards is perfectly legal.
The way I understand it a casino can kick you out and not let you play there again for any reason whatsoever, so they only need to suspect that you are counting cards. But if they catch you using a device, then you have broken the law and so must hand back your winnings. Not sure though whether it is just the law of the casino you have broken or whether you have actually broken the law of the land...

Outkast

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Check out the movie Casino. Great scene about what you just described. Be forwarned: it aint pretty. :'( Kirk