Celebrities killing themselves.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Everything has value sir. Even a lump of butter.

But go on, teach me something Chaney. (Confused theist).

I do not agree with your associations on this site. You must distance yourself from dive and fmf.

Take my advice Ghost.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Everyone has the means to help themselves. What many lack is motivation.

Not motivation - many depressed people would seek help, if they thought they could be helped. Which, being depressed, they don't. Depression isn't a lack of will and moral fibre, it's a lack of self-belief and self-worth.

Originally posted by @shallow-blue
Not motivation - many depressed people would seek help, if they thought they could be helped. Which, being depressed, they don't. Depression isn't a lack of will and moral fibre, it's a lack of self-belief and self-worth.

Very true. (Though a lack of self-belief and self-worth will impact negatively on motivation levels).

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Very true. (Though a lack of self-belief and self-worth will impact negatively on motivation levels).

It does, but that's only a result, and often a very late one. The real problem is trying and failing, trying and recoiling, wanting to be "succesful" (by society's standards) and getting rebuffed again and again, by yourself and others. Do that often enough and yes, you lose the motivation you once had - bur that is effect, not cause.

there are too many guns available. There are more guns in the USA than people.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Linkin Park, Soundgarden, are recent.

Elvis, Jim Morrison are the past.

Elvis? You mean Mr. Presley?
He certainly did not. He went to read comics.
And he disappeared. Staged death.

Originally posted by @ogb
there are too many guns available. There are more guns in the USA than people.

Only the govt should have guns?