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Originally posted by Bad wolfYes, you should turn round anti clockwise three times per second for a minimum of 10 seconds, shouting I am the reference, so hear my reference and reference my reference once per second.
Is there anything special you are supposed to do when referencing, when you quote from a book, something that is in itself a reference to another book? 😕
If you're writing in the field of law, you must stick to the Blue Book. Another acceptable guide among legal scholars is...
http://www.law.cornell.edu/citation/
If it's not related to law what you are writing, just do as you wish. Don't even reference if you don't feel like it. Most likely the piece is unworthy knowledge, expendable, and useless for human kind.
Originally posted by Bad wolfIf the reference is cited, use the book you referenced and cite the book that it referenced as well. that diesn't have to be done with a foot note, you could say "in Smith's book of Butterfly's he references the following quote'blah blah blah.'
Is there anything special you are supposed to do when referencing, when you quote from a book, something that is in itself a reference to another book? 😕
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Originally posted by duecerLast time I wrote something as wordy as that, the extra words got scribbled out when I got the work back, as if that was something you shouldn't do.
If the reference is cited, use the book you referenced and cite the book that it referenced as well. that diesn't have to be done with a foot note, you could say "in Smith's book of Butterfly's he references the following quote'blah blah blah.'
Quoting the other book would be superfluous as well I imagine, just think if it referenced magna carta or something, you are hardly going to be really reading that. Besides, it'd be a drain on the word count.
Originally posted by duecerI have a Phd in Citations from DDU, but we never had to learn this stuff.
If the reference is cited, use the book you referenced and cite the book that it referenced as well. that diesn't have to be done with a foot note, you could say "in Smith's book of Butterfly's he references the following quote'blah blah blah.'
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Originally posted by Bad wolfIt depends on the ethics of your school. At mine, any time you use someone else's words (whether paraphrased or not) and don't cite it, you're committing plagiarism. If you're just using a quote directly from the Magna Carta, just cite that and skip the middleman. If you are quoting someone else's interpretation, then you have to cite.
Last time I wrote something as wordy as that, the extra words got scribbled out when I got the work back, as if that was something you shouldn't do.
Quoting the other book would be superfluous as well I imagine, just think if it referenced magna carta or something, you are hardly going to be really reading that. Besides, it'd be a drain on the word count.
Example A: The Magna Carta says "To no one will we sell, to none will we deny or delay, right or justice." (citation)
Example B: In his book "How Magnetic Is The Magna Carta," Reverend Kirksey says that when the Magna Carta says "To no one will we sell, to none will we deny or delay, right or justice," the implication is really "to no white man." (citation)
Originally posted by pawnhandlerThis is an excellent post in many different ways. I'd rec it if I could. Bad Wolf, follow the advice you see here!
It depends on the ethics of your school. At mine, any time you use someone else's words (whether paraphrased or not) and don't cite it, you're committing plagiarism. If you're just using a quote directly from the Magna Carta, just cite that and skip the middleman. If you are quoting someone else's interpretation, then you have to cite.
Example A: ...[text shortened]... delay, right or justice," the implication is really "to no white man." (citation)