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Originally posted by rwingett
That's like saying that Hitler was a more brutal fascist dictator than Mussolini was. It may be true, but it doesn't exempt Mussolini from his status of being a brutal fascist dictator in his own right.
I think the point he was making was that there are aspects of society that look "good" and appear to function for the betterment of society, but for all their appearances function exclusively to maintain their financial interests.

Let me offer an example of something not related, but is a pet peeve of mine: healthcare marketing. Have you ever seen a healthcare/hospital ad that told the truth about what takes place behind their walls. When I go in a hospital I see people dying, people vomiting, people in pain. I see people wondering how they are going to pay the bills for procedures. I hear kids crying. I hear people scared and frustrated. Yet whenever I see an add on TV I cannot tell the difference between what they are marketing and say a Carnival cruise say that one takes place on a boat. Kirk

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Originally posted by rwingett
That's like saying that Hitler was a more brutal fascist dictator than Mussolini was. It may be true, but it doesn't exempt Mussolini from his status of being a brutal fascist dictator in his own right.
😉 Better than what I feel like saying about it.

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Whistle while you work;
Hitler was a jerk.
Mussolini bit his weanie;
Now it doesn't squirt.

Learned this ditty in grade school in the late 60s when people actually remembered Adolf and Benito...

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Originally posted by rwingett
That's like saying that Hitler was a more brutal fascist dictator than Mussolini was. It may be true, but it doesn't exempt Mussolini from his status of being a brutal fascist dictator in his own right.
It's also like saying that institutional religion has done more to foster hate amongst races,around the world, than the Klan could ever hope to.

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Originally posted by rwingett
That's like saying that Hitler was a more brutal fascist dictator than Mussolini was. It may be true, but it doesn't exempt Mussolini from his status of being a brutal fascist dictator in his own right.
We seem to have trouble taking Mussolini seriously. German politicians nowadays are afraid of showing the merest scintilla of national pride, and are extremely reluctant to disagree with Israel. Italy, on the other hand, seems to have quietly forgotten about the Mussolini years.

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Originally posted by Myst
It's also like saying that institutional religion has done more to foster hate amongst races,around the world, than the Klan could ever hope to.
Your right. Think how many wars have been about ideas and religon.

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Originally posted by kirksey957
Let me offer an example of something not related, but is a pet peeve of mine: healthcare marketing. Have you ever seen a healthcare/hospital ad that told the truth about what takes place behind their walls. When I go in a hospital I see people dying, people vomiting, people in pain. I see people wondering how they are going to pay the bills for procedu ...[text shortened]... tween what they are marketing and say a Carnival cruise say that one takes place on a boat. Kirk
Interesting question: These days, when will going to hospital increase your life expectancy? What about 100 years ago?

The technique with adverts is only to pay attention to the factual information, and to treat that with suspicion, if you even watch the advert at all. No matter what is being advertised, adverts are set in a simplified world, where things which won't encourage you to buy the product are omitted. A charity to prevent child cruelty, for example, will not talk about the vast majority of children who are not abused. Realistic adverts would be very confusing, as the advert is so short.

Out of interest, what kind of adverts do you get for the armed forces in the US? Royal Army adverts at the moment focus on the challenge of being a soldier (physical fitness, ingenuity etc required), though they never show or imply death, injury or violence of any sort, even though they are a constant presence, danger and/or objective in any combat.

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The theme is "be all you can be." Basically, they communicate that (sorry, ladies) you can become a man and people will respect you and look up to you. Kirk

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Originally posted by kirksey957
The theme is "be all you can be." Basically, they communicate that (sorry, ladies) you can become a man and people will respect you and look up to you. Kirk
Come on Kirk.
I think your slip is showing.
Linda.

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Originally posted by misslead
Come on Kirk.
I think your slip is showing.
Linda.
I think your slip is showing Linda, I'm looking up to you
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