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  1. Subscriberdivegeester
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    Should he have been sacked?
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    24 Feb '17 08:59
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Should he have been sacked?
    No, but I guess it's a brutal business being a football manager.
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    24 Feb '17 09:01
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Should he have been sacked?
    You mean literally?
  4. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    24 Feb '17 09:031 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Should he have been sacked?
    Apart from the obvious "loyalty" issues I cannot see it as a good business decision.

    Without shed-loads of money soccer is still a game of chance. The superior team
    may only win 2 out 3 games. Injuries are in the lap of the gods and who knows
    what side of bed the ref got out of?

    To blame failure (or success) totally on a manger is ridiculous.
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    24 Feb '17 09:11
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    No, but I guess it's a brutal business being a football manager.
    Getting relegated to the EFL Championship would be a business disaster for Leicester, and it's a tough competition in the league below the EPL, so there'd be no guarantee whatsoever of coming back up straight away. Leicester are not a big football business like Newcastle who were never likely to spend more than a season in the second tier.
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    24 Feb '17 09:13
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    To blame failure (or success) totally on a manger is ridiculous.
    When a new manager comes in and Leicester finish the season moderately well with an upper bottom half finish, that new boss and his employers will get the credit and the sacking will look like a wise move. If this doesn't all come to pass, I may steer clear of this forum for a few weeks at the end of the season.
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    In football people have short memories 🙁
  8. SubscriberPonderable
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    24 Feb '17 09:55
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Apart from the obvious "loyalty" issues I cannot see it as a good business decision.

    Without shed-loads of money soccer is still a game of chance. The superior team
    may only win 2 out 3 games. Injuries are in the lap of the gods and who knows
    what side of bed the ref got out of?

    To blame failure (or success) totally on a manger is ridiculous.
    It's much easier to replace the manager than the team...

    In german we have the saying: Neue Besen kehren gut [New brooms sweep well].
    That is any Change is resulting in something. And if you are on the downwards spiral most changes will look at least good 🙂
  9. Subscriberdivegeester
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    24 Feb '17 11:101 edit
    Loyalty, in any business, both from customers and to employees, is a thing of the pasts. It's about results these days; money and results.
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    24 Feb '17 11:55
    He was set to win CL - that's why he neglected league and FA cup.
    His gain, club's loss.
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    24 Feb '17 20:29
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Apart from the obvious "loyalty" issues I cannot see it as a good business decision.

    Without shed-loads of money soccer is still a game of chance. The superior team
    may only win 2 out 3 games. Injuries are in the lap of the gods and who knows
    what side of bed the ref got out of?

    To blame failure (or success) totally on a manger is ridiculous.
    " soccer " do you mean football ?.
  12. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    Originally posted by Ponderable
    It's much easier to replace the manager than the team...

    In german we have the saying: Neue Besen kehren gut [New brooms sweep well].
    That is any Change is resulting in something. And if you are on the downwards spiral most changes will look at least good 🙂
    Similar saying in English
    A new broom sweeps clean
    and
    A change is as good as a rest.

    If it works everyone credits the change.
  13. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    24 Feb '17 22:08
    Originally posted by phil3000
    " soccer " do you mean football ?.
    "Soccer" for the benefit of the US cousins.
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    Claudio Ranieri's sacking was madness.
    Leicester are exactly where they should be - in a relegation dogfight. They should have been doing exactly this last season but for a fortunate combination of an imaginative manager working a tight-knit bunch of some inexplicably in-form journeyman players in an unusual counter-attacking game that out-foxed (sorry) the rest of the league. But form is as fickle as class is permanent. Don't confuse Vardy's form with Kante's class - and of course Kante, the powerhouse, walked. Form fades, as it has done with most of this team, and the rest of the Premiership has not surprisingly figured out how to outwit Leicester's tight defensive/counter game. They were never, ever, going to repeat last season's success and their rock-in-a-sock plummet to their rightful place in the bowels of the league, was always likely.
    All in all Ranieri is a victim of his own success. The Leicester board would have been very happy with a 15th place finish last year and if that had happened he would still be in a job.
    Thanks for the memory Claudio - fantastic stuff while it lasted.
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    25 Feb '17 15:48
    Can't stack the players, managers gone. Should have waited until they were out of the CL though, he earned the right to be in charge for the home tie against Sevilla.
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