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  1. SubscriberPonderableonline
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    14 Oct '13 13:54
    Happy holiday to all who observe it.

    Question: Is the landing of Christof Columbus in the west Indies a good reason for celebrating?
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    14 Oct '13 14:04
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    Happy holiday to all who observe it.

    Question: Is the landing of Christof Columbus in the west Indies a good reason for celebrating?
    What do you think?
  3. SubscriberPonderableonline
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    14 Oct '13 14:14
    I think yes Columbus performed a great deed with the journey.

    But he did bring the aboriginal Indians only bad things.
  4. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    14 Oct '13 14:34
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    I think yes Columbus performed a great deed with the journey.

    But he did bring the aboriginal Indians only bad things.
    He did bring the original inhabitants bad things, but his discovery changed the world.

    Does the good outweigh the bad?
  5. SubscriberSuzianne
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    14 Oct '13 15:311 edit
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    I think yes Columbus performed a great deed with the journey.

    But he did bring the aboriginal Indians only bad things.
    If it wasn't him, it would have been someone else.

    By then, almost everyone was aware that the world was not flat.

    Native Americans are still paying for it today, though. But, yes, the handwriting was on the wall for them by then.
  6. SubscriberSuzianne
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    14 Oct '13 15:351 edit
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    He did bring the original inhabitants bad things, but his discovery changed the world.

    Does the good outweigh the bad?
    What if aliens from outer space came down here, colonized and then arrived in such huge numbers that it almost made us extinct, even though several alien races enjoyed technological improvements and a much improved standard of living here.

    Would you still be asking if the good outweighs the bad?
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    14 Oct '13 16:46
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    Happy holiday to all who observe it.

    Question: Is the landing of Christof Columbus in the west Indies a good reason for celebrating?
    You might as well ask, "Is the way the world works a good thing?"
  8. Wat?
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    14 Oct '13 16:491 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    If it wasn't him, it would have been someone else.

    By then, almost everyone was aware that the world was not flat.

    Native Americans are still paying for it today, though. But, yes, the handwriting was on the wall for them by then.
    Wut? The world isn't flat?

    -m.

    Well fact me, I thought RJ was still on a cross in the 'olden days'. Where is he, when I need him now, to prove the world is flat?
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    14 Oct '13 16:581 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Would you still be asking if the good outweighs the bad?
    The question is Socratic, not a value judgment.

    I'm not taking sides.. just framing the issue for discussion.
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    14 Oct '13 17:28
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    The question is Socratic, not a value judgment.

    I'm not taking sides.. just framing the issue for discussion.
    Socratestical sidelining?

    -m. 😉
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    14 Oct '13 17:28
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    The question is Socratic, not a value judgment.

    I'm not taking sides.. just framing the issue for discussion.
    Of course the Vikings were here first. But they were farther north and did not open the New World to trade or exploration.
  12. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    14 Oct '13 17:31
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Socratestical sidelining?

    -m. 😉
    Something like that.
  13. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    14 Oct '13 17:34
    Originally posted by ale1552
    Of course the Vikings were here first. But they were farther north and did not open the New World to trade or exploration.
    And didn't overpower the natives.
  14. Dublin Ireland
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    14 Oct '13 17:57
    Originally posted by ale1552
    Of course the Vikings were here first. But they were farther north and did not open the New World to trade or exploration.
    When the Vikings came to Ireland,
    they settled and had a positive influence.
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    14 Oct '13 18:01
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    Happy holiday to all who observe it.
    Question: Is the landing of Christof Columbus in the west Indies a good reason for celebrating?
    For the plunderers, yes.
    For the plundered, no.
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