Originally posted by uzlessHoly crap!! Looked like Nick Nolte was driving...hope it was just the wind. 😕
Check this plane out....can't get much closer to crashing than this! It had more than 100 people onboard!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
Click on the video of the plane on the right side menu...has sound too.
Originally posted by uzlessI have some expertise in the field, and the pilot deserves real credit for saving the aircraft. This looked very much like first class flying. Gale force lateral cross winds, exacerbated by surface turbulance, can present a no win situation even for the most modern commercial aircraft. It's very rare that it suddenly suprises a pilot at this altitude but clearly these conditions weren't anticipated, and weren't experienced by previous aircraft landing on the same runway (or they would have reported it).
Check this plane out....can't get much closer to crashing than this! It had more than 100 people onboard!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
Click on the video of the plane on the right side menu...has sound too.
Not only was the guy not level, his port wing clipped the tarmac as he attempted to power the aircraft out of its descent. And he had to judge the angle of lift to prevent too steep an initial climb, or his tail hits the concrete and it's game over. All with what looked liked half a tornado going on around his aircraft.
To use a driving analogy, this is a bit like having to to steer around a sudden obstacle, driving at 140mph, on a road covered in black ice, with one flat tyre, and just as you start the maneouvere your nearside tyre blows out.
Good effort my man! Thats a lot of people who owe him their health, and probably their lives.
Originally posted by PolicestateLook again, PS, this didn't "suddenly surprise" the pilot. He was fighting that cross-wind the whole way in.
I have some expertise in the field, and the pilot deserves real credit for saving the aircraft. This looked very much like first class flying. Gale force lateral cross winds, exacerbated by surface turbulance, can present a no win situation even for the most modern commercial aircraft. It's very rare that it suddenly suprises a pilot at this altitude but ...[text shortened]... ood effort my man! Thats a lot of people who owe him their health, and probably their lives.
I am a commercial pilot and I applaud the pilots and and the crew recourse management for going around when they did, a bad set of crew members would try to get it on the ground.
Here is an example of bad CRM (crew resource management)
The PNF (pilot not flying) is to much of a wimp to tell the other crew member to go around, and the PF (Pilot Flying) dont want to go around cause hes afraid it will be a sign of weakness.
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Originally posted by flyUnityI'm looking at the angle of the plane and trying to figure out the cross wind, I'm thinking at least 20 k from about 30 degrees off the runway.
I am a commercial pilot and I applaud the pilots and and the crew recourse management for going around when they did, a bad set of crew members would try to get it on the ground.
Here is an example of bad CRM (crew resource management)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s5prz1Ae5QM
The PNF (pilot not flying) is to much of a wimp to tell the other crew memb ...[text shortened]... and the PF (Pilot Flying) dont want to go around cause hes afraid it will be a sign of weakness.
Oi! I hate cross wind landings!
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Here is another link to it:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23455452#23455452
I wonder if it is standard procedure to handle cross wind landings with a crab versus a slip.
Originally posted by flyUnityFlying carriages...
I am a commercial pilot and I applaud the pilots and and the crew recourse management for going around when they did, a bad set of crew members would try to get it on the ground.
Here is an example of bad CRM (crew resource management)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s5prz1Ae5QM
The PNF (pilot not flying) is to much of a wimp to tell the other crew memb ...[text shortened]... and the PF (Pilot Flying) dont want to go around cause hes afraid it will be a sign of weakness.
Bah!