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are all runways designed with that dip in the middle? I reckon it's easier to land on a downslope and it def allowed that pilot a bit of space to power out of it.

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http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055247784

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055247784

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Wow, what a photo!

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Originally posted by uzless
are all runways designed with that dip in the middle? I reckon it's easier to land on a downslope and it def allowed that pilot a bit of space to power out of it.
no, some runways have humps in them, some are flat, some have dips, it make little difference, the preference is to land going on an upslope vs downslope.

Here is the steepest runway I ever found, 18.5 % slope!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0808682&WxsIERv

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Originally posted by mlprior
I'm looking at the angle of the plane and trying to figure out the cross wind, I'm thinking at least 20 k from about 30 degrees off the runway.

Oi! I hate cross wind landings!

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Here is another link to it:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23455452#23455452

I wonder if it is standard procedure to handle cross wind landings with a crab versus a slip.
my guess is wind is double or triple that.

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Originally posted by flyUnity
my guess is wind is double or triple that.
The beaufort scale starts gales at 63km/h up to 103km/h.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale

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Originally posted by flyUnity
my guess is wind is double or triple that.
How do you normally handle a cross wind on a commercial flight?

With a crab or a slip?

Why can't they design the plane with rotating wheels so you can crab into the wind and still land the plane in the direction of the ground track?

Sorry for all the questions.
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Originally posted by flyUnity
no, some runways have humps in them, some are flat, some have dips, it make little difference, the preference is to land going on an upslope vs downslope.

Here is the steepest runway I ever found, 18.5 % slope!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0808682&WxsIERv
Wow!

I've heard Courchevel has some great snow! Might be worth a trip!

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Originally posted by mlprior
How do you normally handle a cross wind on a commercial flight?

With a crab or a slip?

Why can't they design the plane with rotating wheels so you can crab into the wind and still land the plane in the direction of the ground track?

Sorry for all the questions.
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I prefer the Crab method 10:1 over the Slip method, for many reasons; passenger comfort mostly, it scares passengers to be in a bank the whole approach, That being said, my company required us to do the slip method (Only God knows why). but we "kinda" did what we wanted, and I didnt like the bosses telling me how to fly when all he did is sat on his chair.
Most airlines I see do the crab method as but there are a couple that says to slip (FedEx is the only one I can think of atm (or at least used to), and maybe its because they do cargo and not passengers)

Also the bigger planes DO have wheels that rotate, the wheels align with the ground track which enables to land in a crab to an extent. Here is a clip that you may be able to see that.



(These pilots here are all using the crab method)

at 1:40 you can kinda see the wheels rotated a bit, after the mains hit, they then straighten it up before letting the nose-wheel touchdown.


PS BTW for folk here who dont know the difference, when landing in wind when it is coming from the side, the crab method is when you point the nose into the wind during the whole approach and keep wings level, then just before landing (or during) align the plane with the runway. the Slip is when the plane is aligned with the runway the during the final approach, but the plane is in a constant bank to keep the plane from drifting and you land on one wheel at a time.