Originally posted by stockenObviously you're not familar with the collected works of Ron Jeremy... its art baby!
No, I don't consider them porn either, simply because they're not very arousing. But they're the closest thing to porn I've seen with a working story and good acting in it.
Perhaps a porn movie with good acting and a believable storyline is self-contradictory? As soon as it reaches a higher level of artistic expression it cease to be porn (whether they depict it all or not)?
Originally posted by stockenPersonally, I think the best porn has no plot whatsoever. Much better than a bad, poorly-acted plot or a really involved plot that makes you wait too long between sex scenes.
No, I don't consider them porn either, simply because they're not very arousing. But they're the closest thing to porn I've seen with a working story and good acting in it.
Perhaps a porn movie with good acting and a believable storyline is self-contradictory? As soon as it reaches a higher level of artistic expression it cease to be porn (whether they depict it all or not)?
Originally posted by stockenTo me, yes. It would be a film that includes explicit sex, but it's a question of categorization, perhaps. It's a bit like comparing Hustler and artistic nudes.
Perhaps a porn movie with good acting and a believable storyline is self-contradictory? As soon as it reaches a higher level of artistic expression it cease to be porn (whether they depict it all or not)?
Originally posted by PalynkaIn a pinch, I've been known to rub one out to the National Geographic... its all a question of being able to fulfill the Magic Porn Triangle of Imagination, Skin and Lubrication.
To me, yes. It would be a film that includes explicit sex, but it's a question of categorization, perhaps. It's a bit like comparing Hustler and artistic nudes.
Originally posted by PalynkaI tried to find something about raping Fido, but the only thing I came across was Fidel raping some girl. http://cuban-exile.com/doc_326-350/doc0343.html
Wait. Lubrication? Are you talking about watching National Geographic or raping Fido?
I wonder if that was in National Geographic.
Originally posted by StarrmanI imagine he's talking about Hand of Hecate doing the nasty with his own dog, hence the need for lubrication and the reference to natural documentaries. 😕
I tried to find something about raping Fido, but the only thing I came across was Fidel raping some girl. http://cuban-exile.com/doc_326-350/doc0343.html
I wonder if that was in National Geographic.
Originally posted by stockenI think the problem lies in the conlict between having a dramatic arc and nature of porn being all about catharsis. with normal story you're trying to build up the tension, with porn you're showing everything right away.
Perhaps a porn movie with good acting and a believable storyline is self-contradictory? As soon as it reaches a higher level of artistic expression it cease to be porn (whether they depict it all or not)?
if you'd construct a decent (no pun) storyline, you'd have no other choice than leaving the action into the very end. if you put it any sooner, the suspense will collapse right after it. and you can't have a dramatic arc if you fill the plot with porn from the beginning to the end.