Flat Earth proof

Originally posted by apathist
The image from the op is not accurate, since it doesn't show the elephants or the turtle.

What does the turtle and elephant eat? Where does the poop go?

Originally posted by sonhouse
What does the turtle and elephant eat? Where does the poop go?

They are composed of chelonium and so don't need to eat and poop. The turtle is horny, though, and heads toward the Time of Mating.

Originally posted by apathist
They are composed of chelonium and so don't need to eat and poop. The turtle is horny, though, and heads toward the Time of Mating.

Source: The colours of Magic by Terry Pratchett

Originally posted by Ponderable
Source: The colours of Magic by Terry Pratchett

That must be what creates the seasons then.

Originally posted by apathist
The image from the op is not accurate, since it doesn't show the elephants or the turtle.

It has been proved that these do not show up in pictures.

So this is YET MORE PROOF.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
It has been proved that these do not show up in pictures.

So this is YET MORE PROOF.

You mean Foorperomtey.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Sorry, the "proof" disappeared. Probably deleted because it was so obviously false. There are a thousand proofs Earth is a ball more or less, and only pseudoscientific nonsense Earth is flat.

For instance, on a flat Earth, the equator is a circle on the big pancake earth. So if you follow that equator line you have to continually turn left or right, sm ...[text shortened]... ligious stance, there is no argument that would convince him otherwise, and I suspect, you also.

East (or west) is only detectable as it relates to an orientation to north or south.
The only reference point available is the earth so only the earth's orientation points are ascertained.
Start walking east or west and you can continue doing so forever.

Science employs a basic method for determining reality, and--- as far as is currently known--- has certain triggers to verify the results.
If any information fails to withstand any of these triggers, it falls into the realm of unproven or possibly false.

An early (BCE) computer for projecting position is the combination of the planisphere and dioptra, known as an astrolabe.
It assumed the earth is the center of the universe.

Works with precision still today as it did then, because, well, science.

ut-oh!

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
East (or west) is only detectable as it relates to an orientation to north or south.
The only reference point available is the earth so only the earth's orientation points are ascertained.
Start walking east or west and you can continue doing so forever.

Science employs a basic method for determining reality, and--- as far as is currently known--- ha ...[text shortened]... the universe.

Works with precision still today as it did then, because, well, [b]science.[/b]

You really don't get it. You walk a straight line on the flatass equator, you are now off the equator, going to the edge of your fantasy planet. You can't get around that, it is simple physics. On the REAL world you can walk the imaginary equator line going neither left or right, but follow that road forever. Just doesn't happen on your fantasy pancake.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You really don't get it. You walk a straight line on the flatass equator, you are now off the equator, going to the edge of your fantasy planet. You can't get around that, it is simple physics. On the REAL world you can walk the imaginary equator line going neither left or right, but follow that road forever. Just doesn't happen on your fantasy pancake.

Walking or any other movement isn't required.
Stand in one spot, facing due east, or 90° off of direct north.
Any pivot less than or greater than exact 90° 'dilutes' your due east by that same amount.
Your motion forward (or backward) alters nothing with respect to cardinal position without movement in a different direction.
In other words, as stated, if you move east and continue without allowing deviation of any degree north or south, you will be heading east indefinitely.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Walking or any other movement isn't required.
Stand in one spot, facing due east, or 90° off of direct north.
Any pivot less than or greater than exact 90° 'dilutes' your due east by that same amount.
Your motion forward (or backward) alters nothing with respect to cardinal position without movement in a different direction.
In other words, as stated, ...[text shortened]... without allowing deviation of any degree north or south, you will be heading east indefinitely.

And continously turning left or right depending on direction of travel. You don't seem to get that part. You are walking on a pancake, remember. Nothing fanciful about that, you are walking on a 33 phonograph record. If there is a groove cut in the ground at the equator you could be guided into following that groove forever but you are still guided, you are turning left or right continuously. On the surface say a road was constructed that was the pancake Earth equator, say it is a hundred miles wide. You start out at the center point of the road and go straight. You will soon be at the edge of the roadway and you keep going and you are going away from center, the north pole. What part of that don't you get?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Walking or any other movement isn't required.
Stand in one spot, facing due east, or 90° off of direct north.
Any pivot less than or greater than exact 90° 'dilutes' your due east by that same amount.
Your motion forward (or backward) alters nothing with respect to cardinal position without movement in a different direction.
In other words, as stated, ...[text shortened]... without allowing deviation of any degree north or south, you will be heading east indefinitely.

But seriously dude, you know the Earth is spherical, right?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
But seriously dude, you know the Earth is spherical, right?

I know that it is 'round' enough to allow continual east or westward travel, indefinitely.
I also know the mathematics prove the earth cannot be a sphere with the stated dimensions, i.e., 25,000 miles around.

Originally posted by sonhouse
And continously turning left or right depending on direction of travel. You don't seem to get that part. You are walking on a pancake, remember. Nothing fanciful about that, you are walking on a 33 phonograph record. If there is a groove cut in the ground at the equator you could be guided into following that groove forever but you are still guided, you are ...[text shortened]... keep going and you are going away from center, the north pole. What part of that don't you get?

Standing in one spot oriented 90° off of North, you are facing east.
A step forward and toward that same directional line requires no turning whatsoever: none.
Do that enough steps and you're back where you started from, while never once requiring any type of turn: you always walked straight ahead.
You set your direction as 90° off north, remained 90° off north and didn't turn a single time.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Standing in one spot oriented 90° off of North, you are facing east.
A step forward and toward that same directional line requires no turning whatsoever: none.
Do that enough steps and you're back where you started from, while never once requiring any type of turn: you always walked straight ahead.
You set your direction as 90° off north, remained 90° off north and didn't turn a single time.

Did you not take trig 101 in high school? If you walk in a straight line from a circle, you are in fact on a tangent to that circle. You should take some remidial math, it might help you see what I am taking about. There IS no going straight on a flat plane circular path. You ALWAYS are in a circlular movement. What exactly is so hard to understand about that?

Now you say Earth is spherical enough so you can walk around the equator? So if it is not 25K miles circumference, what is the size of Earth?
You think it's what, a pancake that has drooped into a bowl shape, Earth now has an equator you can walk straight on because of that?
Also, you intimate Earth is what, 10 miles deep max? How do you account for gravity then? The asteroid ESA landed a probe on is also about 10 miles deep and you would weigh about as much as a sheet of paper there. You could launch yourself off that asteroid by wiggling your toes. You in fact would have to have a corkscrew driven into the ground to help you stay on that asteroid, which is what the Rosetta probe was supposed to do but that device to bury an anchor didn't work and just the extremely soft landing was enough for it to bounce up above the surface hundreds of feet and bounce gently about 3 times before coming to rest in some kind of culvert where its solar cells could not get sunlight. Goodbye probe.