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Originally posted by FreakyKBHAnd you are unable to respond to other issues that utterly destroys the flatasssness you and your buddies have a belly laugh over. That is the ONLY reason you won't respond, because there are MANY problems with a flat non-spinning Earth and you only want us to respond to two of them. !, Nasa DOES NOT LIE and 2 vision over the horizon is due to atmospheric conditions and all you can do is nit pick over those two issues when you have a multitude of others you need to address but you continue to not want to talk about them because you are intellectually incapable of finding any kind of rational that would all those other things like an upside down moon or stars rotating in the wrong direction. Those things completely destroy your flatassness and you know it full well and so just refuse to even acknowledge they are problems for your flatassness.
What I think is of so little consequence, it is not even a factor.
How do YOU explain the visibility of distant objects (such as exampled in this latest video) which should otherwise be below the horizon and out of the line of sight?
So, lets say NASA lies, ESA lies, everyone lies, you see islands and it is not due to refraction, so if we admit that, then tell me why the moon is upside down in the southern hemisphere and the stars rotate backasswards down there also.
Originally posted by sonhouseLet us put first things first.
And you are unable to respond to other issues that utterly destroys the flatasssness you and your buddies have a belly laugh over. That is the ONLY reason you won't respond, because there are MANY problems with a flat non-spinning Earth and you only want us to respond to two of them. !, Nasa DOES NOT LIE and 2 vision over the horizon is due to atmospheric c ...[text shortened]... oon is upside down in the southern hemisphere and the stars rotate backasswards down there also.
We will not allow other questions into the equation until the more important matters are settled.
First things first.
Are you finally admitting that you cannot explain the visibility of distant objects?
Originally posted by FreakyKBHNo and we are through talking. The FACT JACK the moon is upside down in the southern hemisphere PROVES Earth is round not flat, you can't get that effect on a flat Earth.
Let us put first things first.
We will not allow other questions into the equation until the more important matters are settled.
First things first.
Are you finally admitting that you cannot explain the visibility of distant objects?
So we are done, you only THINK these are only side issues but they are part and parcel of the entire gamut of evidence proving Earth is round, or as round as a spinning planet can get.
You have to ignore physics to believe your fantasy.
The fact stars spin in opposite directions is not a side issue it is one of THE issues proving Earth is spinning.
The pendulum also proves Earth is spinning.
You cannot answer those issues because you only THINK seeing Islands only 100 miles away proves your point. You can't have it both ways, thinking seeing islands proves it while ignoring real physics.
So we are done, I have nothing to prove, you have everything to lose. I KNOW we are on a round spinning planet with a north and south pole and that is that.
Goodbye, this is my last post on this subject.
Originally posted by sonhouseYour critical thinking skills are rusty.
No and we are through talking. The FACT JACK the moon is upside down in the southern hemisphere PROVES Earth is round not flat, you can't get that effect on a flat Earth.
So we are done, you only THINK these are only side issues but they are part and parcel of the entire gamut of evidence proving Earth is round, or as round as a spinning planet can get. ...[text shortened]... t with a north and south pole and that is that.
Goodbye, this is my last post on this subject.
That you fail to put two and two together and realize the resultant four is an indictment on your ability to think clearly.
I have proven my point repeatedly on these two questions while you and anyone else in opposition has either spouted pseudoscience claptrap, attempted to redirect the focus, or--- when all else failed--- denied the obvious truth.
You are now as you've always been: free to walk away with your opinion intact.
Walking away doesn't change the fact that your opinion is based on your bias and pet ideas, not on facts, not on reality.
Originally posted by sonhouseWhich way up is the moon at the equator ?
No and we are through talking. The FACT JACK the moon is upside down in the southern hemisphere PROVES Earth is round not flat, you can't get that effect on a flat Earth.
So we are done, you only THINK these are only side issues but they are part and parcel of the entire gamut of evidence proving Earth is round, or as round as a spinning planet can get. ...[text shortened]... t with a north and south pole and that is that.
Goodbye, this is my last post on this subject.
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Originally posted by Captain StrangeHere is an explanation from 'ask an astronomer' from Cornell Uni:
Well Sonhouse seems to have all the answers so lets see what the NAShole comes up with.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/46-our-solar-system/the-moon/observing-the-moon/135-does-the-moon-look-different-in-the-northern-and-southern-hemispheres-beginner
Try to do some critical thinking about how that could happen on a flat Earth. Good luck.
Originally posted by sonhouseZzzzzzz
Here is an explanation from 'ask an astronomer' from Cornell Uni:
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/46-our-solar-system/the-moon/observing-the-moon/135-does-the-moon-look-different-in-the-northern-and-southern-hemispheres-beginner
Try to do some critical thinking about how that could happen on a flat Earth. Good luck.
On the subject of i believe, I have been crystal clear.
My answer was (and is) unequivocal and unclouded.
It is unnecessary for me to repeat the same information when it is readily available for anyone interested in reading it: these posts cannot be deleted after a certain point except by the owners of the site.
I have literally spent more time telling you I will not answer the question again than I did in responding to it the first time.
Why do you think that is?
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHSeeing Kauai from ohau is BS:
On the subject of i believe, I have been crystal clear.
My answer was (and is) unequivocal and unclouded.
It is unnecessary for me to repeat the same information when it is readily available for anyone interested in reading it: these posts cannot be deleted after a certain point except by the owners of the site.
I have literally spent more time telli ...[text shortened]... er the question again than I did in responding to it the first time.
Why do you think that is?
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g29222-i37-k173187-Oahu_folks_help_settle_an_argument-Oahu_Hawaii.html
Originally posted by sonhouseThank God tripadvisor.com was there to debunk this claim and set the record straight!
Seeing Kauai from ohau is BS:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g29222-i37-k173187-Oahu_folks_help_settle_an_argument-Oahu_Hawaii.html
Eleven year ago, when this response was given, paradisetrekker offered his personal experience--- nothing more, nothing less.
He indicated he had never seen it, nor did he know of anyone else who had observed it.
Further in his response he talks about how some islands would not be visible from certain other islands on account of the lack of a direct line of sight.
This is decidedly not the case for Kauai to O'ahu as is evidenced by any accurate map of the state.
Kauai, at 22°05′N 159°30′W is just a little over 100 miles north and west of O'ahu, which sits roughly at 21°28′N 157°59′W with no impediment between the two islands.
Furthermore, as the video has demonstrated, one island CAN be observed from the other island, despite the great distance.
I understand you don't WANT it to be true, but we've seen no evidence of curvature on this stationary stage we call earth.
Where it should be, it simply ain't.