Originally posted by LivingLegendSchumacher has already proven that, when the ferrari and (originally) the Benetton was not the car(s) he still one races and two champoinships.
Haha, that's funny!😀
But I think that it is a good idea (like it can be realised) to see if Schumacher would win if he drove a lot slower car!
Olav
Look at what happened to Benetton when he left the car did not get worst, an experienced driver in Berger got in the same car but could not match Schumacher times.
The same will happen to Ferrari when Michael finally retires.
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but have you noticed that veilnneuve (i have no idea how to spell it😛) won the champoinship in his second year, but now is at present struggling in the mid pack with a team that he has been with from the start? and remember that ferrari have a much larger budget than teams such as minardi, that have a meer couple of million to work with-they only introduced their launch control on sunday!...
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Originally posted by geniusVilleneuve takes $25M of a $100M budget on wages, 25% of the teams resourses ar lost on his pay packet - he made the choice of money over succcess.
but have you noticed that veilnneuve (i have no idea how to spell it😛) won the champoinship in his second year, but now is at present struggling in the mid pack with a team that he has been with from the start? and remember that ferrari have a much larger budget than teams such as minardi, that have a meer couple of million to work with-they only introduced their launch control on sunday!...
Actually BAR is Villeneuve's 3rd F1 team.He won his championship with Williams who were running Renault at the time.He teamed with Damon Hill to help him win a championship in Villeneuve's rookie season.Villeneuve then one next season after Damon left for some small team that slips my mind right now.BAR is still basically a new team.New engines and only their 3 year or so.
This was just when Ferrari's investment in Schumacher started to pay off.Other drivers,Hill and Villeneuve included,thought they could also move to smaller teams and bring them from also rans like Mike did for Ferrari.They were greatly mistaken.The latest example might be Eddie Irvine.Jaguar just ain't going anywhere.
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Originally posted by SmashI would actually argue that its a close toss between Jaguar and Renault for most improved car this year.
Actually BAR is Villeneuve's 3rd F1 team.He won his championship with Williams who were running Renault at the time.He teamed with Damon Hill to help him win a championship in Villeneuve's rookie season.Villeneuve then one next season after Damon left for some small team that slips my mind right now.BAR is still basically a new team.New engines and only thei ...[text shortened]... ere greatly mistaken.The latest example might be Eddie Irvine.Jaguar just ain't going anywhere.
Damon Hill went to Arrows, mainly as it was the only drive he found himself. The Hungarian GP of that year was Hills best race, probably the one race above all that justified him being a world champion. He took a peice of junk that nearly did not qualify for the first race of that season, stuck it on the front row with I think the same time as the pole sitter, led the whole race and only lost out to mechanical failure on the last lap to finish second.
I would not say Jacques helped Damon to the title, he just lost the shootout in Japan for the title. In all honesty he probably should have won the title, he was robbed of winning his first ever GP due to some mystical mechanical failure that cost him the lead in the closing laps of the Australian GP.
He drove for williams 1996-1998, then set up BAR with Shaun Pollock who was his mate and manager. They were both concerned more about making cash for themselves than building a winning team, pollock paid the price for this and was ousted - the team is now run by Dave Richards.
Villneurve turned down the McClaren that Mika Hakkien won 2 world titles in.
Andrew
ok maybe helped is not theright word.Supported maybe.
As it was,the 2 ran away from the pack at Australia.Villeneuve was in front of Hill and Hill could not get around.They were really racing which was kinda surprising.Anyway,with 15 laps or so left,Villeneuve developed an slight oil leak.This forced him to back off to insure 2nd and let Damon by,who went on to win comfortably.
So the season was set.With 10 full points,Hill would be the guy that year.Jacques would support.If it had finished the other way then maybe Ville has 2 championships.Next year he was joined by Frentzen (iirc) and Ville was Williams #1...for a very short time before he began to think it was him more than the car.
Renault just got back into F1 last year I think.They bowed out years ago saying "everything had been accomplished"
I remember the race well that Hill "won".IIRC it was darn near the last corner when she blew.Things could have ended very differently for Hill had it not been for that failure.
Originally posted by SmashEddie Irvine did not have the personality to accomplish anything a jaguar. To bring the team forward you need to motivate them to work together and the only way to do that is to talk to them on the floor. Eddie never walked around the factory floor and talked to the people who biult the cars for him.
Actually BAR is Villeneuve's 3rd F1 team.He won his championship with Williams who were running Renault at the time.He teamed with Damon Hill to help him win a championship in Villeneuve's rookie season.Villeneuve then one next season after Damon left for some small team that slips my mind right now.BAR is still basically a new team.New engines and only thei ...[text shortened]... ere greatly mistaken.The latest example might be Eddie Irvine.Jaguar just ain't going anywhere.
Whereas Michael (at ferrair) and Mark Webber (at jaguar) have (are) doing the motivation for their respective teams. Both teams have shown huge improvements since those drivers joined the team.
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Originally posted by CFCdoes anyone remember that McLarens sudden speed came when adrian newy (i think 😛-the designed dude) left williams for them? and williams started to slow down? coincidence... granted, the drivers have a lot to do about it, but so do the teams!...
aswell as the Ferraris' extraordinary speed.