Originally posted by PalynkaWhich proves my point that games against unscrupulous subscribers should be avoided by non-subs.
It's not unfair because the terms were agreed implicitly whenever you started a game with a subscriber.
The only ones you can actually have a little bit of a point (but it's still massive whinging) are the ones that were ongoing when the system changed. But this only shows how petty your point is.
Also, I am not whinging as I follow this policy thus sidestepping the blatant unfairness.
Originally posted by rhbAs I have stated many times, I know it's a difficult job, I know they are doing their best, and I know most bans probably are deserved and either explained or not needing an explanation. I don't think giving a short warning and/or explanation would place a further burden on these volunteers, as it would mean that the poster can avoid the same mistake next time, thus giving the moderators less work; plus they would avoid a lot of arguing and anger against them, which I think may be the worst burden of the moderator job. And if they have to act quickly and don't have the time to give a warning, they could still send an explanation later, and in cases where they feel they may have misjudged the situation, a little apology would go a long way.
Not an idiot, a softie. I think your reaction - and those who argue along the same lines - to the actions of those who volunteer to moderate these forums shows a lack of respect for the time they put in, the good work they do, and the fact that they may have to act quickly when situation requires. To demand explanations / warnings etc is going to place a further ...[text shortened]... ereof) with or without notice.
Until you get the TOS changed, then this crusade is pointless.
Originally posted by NordlysMaybe a moderator could comment here on the amount of anger heading their way, and the number of times they've felt on reflection they had misjudged a situation, but I think you're drifting towards a very specific gripe from the time you were banned.
As I have stated many times, I know it's a difficult job, I know they are doing their best, and I know most bans probably are deserved and either explained or not needing an explanation. I don't think giving a short warning and/or explanation would place a further burden on these volunteers, as it would mean that the poster can avoid the same mistake ...[text shortened]... where they feel they may have misjudged the situation, a little apology would go a long way.
I've seen threads recently along the lines of "why was I banned", where the reason has been given to the user.
I'm not sure that giving users like rmacken and trevor33 reasons for why they were banned will stop them from treading, and crossing, the line in future. They are the kind of users who like to see how far they can push it, and will continue to do so. I've not seen many users drastically reformed as a result of a forum ban.
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Originally posted by Loose ScrewThis would only work if there was always a mod 'on duty'.
I would like to propose more like this:
1) Give the person a warning with a PM first!
Unfortunately this is not always the case, as we are volunteers with our own jobs/lives/etc., so someone repeatedly breaking the rules set out in the ToS could (and should!) be banned without necessarily receiving a warning.
We do try to warn a user first.
Originally posted by rhbYou may be right about the specific gripe, but from the way it was handled, I find it hard to believe it only happened in this one case. What would really be interesting would be to hear from different mods who use different modding guidelines. Belgianfreak has posted his personal modding guidelines before, and he does all the things I am asking for, so it would be interesting to see if his modding style is more time-consuming and if he gets more or less abuse than a mod who bans without warnings and explanations (although it would be difficult to compare, because the abuse may hit the wrong mod, as the banned person can't know who did the banning).
Maybe a moderator could comment here on the amount of anger heading their way, and the number of times they've felt on reflection they had misjudged a situation, but I think you're drifting towards a very specific gripe from the time you were banned.
I've seen threads recently along the lines of "why was I banned", where the reason has been given to the user. ...[text shortened]... tinue to do so. I've not seen many users drastically reformed as a result of a forum ban.
Yes, I know some people will never change their behaviour (which also makes the bans rather pointless). I know I would, but my bans have rather had the opposite effect because they gave me the feeling that I can't avoid getting banned anyway, so I can just as well be less careful.
Originally posted by Dance Master MCPretty amazing, eh? I as a moderator do NOT like the "Let's test the Mod" threads. Moderators have enough work to do without people having fun calling us like a puppy to see if we will come running.
I wish I never started "The Forum moderator" thread, I didn't know someone would get banned because of it...
When it happens, I personally teat it as much higher offense than just slipping a cuss here or there.
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Originally posted by Phlabibit'teat' it? Mmmm... nipples.
Pretty amazing, eh? I as a moderator do NOT like the "Let's test the Mod" threads. Moderators have enough work to do without people having fun calling us like a puppy to see if we will come running.
When it happens, I personally teat it as much higher offense than just slipping a cuss here or there.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitBan him, Phlab! Ban Dance Master MC!
Pretty amazing, eh? I as a moderator do NOT like the "Let's test the Mod" threads. Moderators have enough work to do without people having fun calling us like a puppy to see if we will come running.
When it happens, I personally teat it as much higher offense than just slipping a cuss here or there.
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He told me you don't have the guts!
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