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the intent of this message is to provide a reply to Boston lad who raised , in a previous post, the principles of 1. freedom from oppression, 2. representation without taxation, 3. principle of manifest identity. I found myself up to my ears in some type of virtual rerun of the American civil war on the Forum section of this site. I thought that i might try some quirky take on the British rule of the colonies, it was ST patricks day i remember, anyhow, they were not ready for it, when i suggested that it would be better for the Americans if we re colonized their country, naturally I blamed the Bostonians for that original misdemeanors and miscreant ways which initiated a spirit of rebellion and as a consequence I therefore wanted to be an adoptive southerner as I could not bring myself to recognize the union for its lack of appreciation, and petitioned that I might have a Dixie Flag instead, all hell broke loose, it was unbelievable, people were asking if it was said in jest, I mean who dosnt talk about recolonizing America in jest for goodness sake! Then all these guys started to harp on about slavery, then all the southerners started to defend their stance saying relatively few people were slave owners etc, it was frightening, you know I am A-political, anyhow then some dude ask me to consider three principles, freedom from oppression, taxation without representation and principle of manifest destiny, naturally i thought these noble ideals must of course be viewed in there present day context, because after all were of course talking about the recolonizing of America due to its deviation from these elevated principles which its founding fathers fought so hard to establish. the first noble ideal, freedom from oppression, America of course must confront its own back yard in this regard I will not and cannot say anything in this regard, and secondly are you taxed more or less now than when the British taxed the colonists at 3%, yes you are allowed to vote, however do you have anymore representation now than you did under the British, do you not vote for delegates, which may or may not vote on your behalf in primary elections for candidates in presidential elections, the huge sums of money involved almost inevitably precludes any ordinary citizen from becoming president, is this democratic representation in any real sense? seems to me America is simply in the same state with which the British left having a kind of virtual representation. This ideal of manifest destiny, the belief that American culture, morals, values etc should be exported has led to incredible anti American sentiment through out not only the east but has penetrated as far as northern Europe most notably Sweden. Would the founding fathers think that their lofty principles with which they fought so bravely to obtain are still being upheld?

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I suspect the original thread may have been in the Debates forum, where a sense of humour is sadly misplaced. If you intend this thread to be a thoughtful and serious discussion, it should be moved to the Debates forum. In the General forum most topics are treated with levity so I'm suggesting you let us know if you want this thread moved or not.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the intent of this message is to provide a reply to Boston lad...
This is meant in a friendly way.

Robbie, if you want your message to get read by the most people possible, you need to present it better. Many will look at the large block of text above and not even bother to scan it.

Break it up into paragraphs and put white space between them. (Like this). Be consistant in your capitalization (I). Split the loooong sentences into two or more manageable ones.

You don't need to "dumb down" your ideas or avoid complex arguements. But people will never know what you have to say if they don't bother to read it because of the physical layout of the text.

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Steve

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Originally posted by MontyMoose
This is meant in a friendly way.

Robbie, if you want your message to get read by the most people possible, you need to present it better. Many will look at the large block of text above and not even bother to scan it.

Break it up into paragraphs and put white space between them. (Like this). Be consistant in your capitalization (I). Split the loooon ...[text shortened]... if they don't bother to read it because of the physical layout of the text.

Best,
Steve
Sorry.

Could you repeat that please?

-m 😀😀😀 😏😏 😀😀😀:

MontyMoose

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Originally posted by mikelom
Sorry.

Could you repeat that please?

-m 😀😀😀 😏😏 😀😀😀:
You are still upset about the dot thing, aren't you? 😛

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Originally posted by MontyMoose
This is meant in a friendly way.

Robbie, if you want your message to get read by the most people possible, you need to present it better. Many will look at the large block of text above and not even bother to scan it.

Break it up into paragraphs and put white space between them. (Like this). Be consistant in your capitalization (I). Split the loooon ...[text shortened]... if they don't bother to read it because of the physical layout of the text.

Best,
Steve
Nail on the head.
Is it worth a read?

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Originally posted by MontyMoose
This is meant in a friendly way.

Robbie, if you want your message to get read by the most people possible, you need to present it better. Many will look at the large block of text above and not even bother to scan it.

Break it up into paragraphs and put white space between them. (Like this). Be consistant in your capitalization (I). Split the loooon ...[text shortened]... if they don't bother to read it because of the physical layout of the text.

Best,
Steve
"Good Samaritan Award of the Week", Monty. 🙂

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