Future perfect continuous

Originally posted by asromacalcio
Because the others here know not to use it with stative verbs, which you have done, in error, I so solemnly inform you.

Rec'd.

Originally posted by Nordlys
Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that "it will have been forgotten" is not future perfect continuous. It just states the result, not how we will have arrived there. It could be because we would have been forgetting, or it could be because we would suddenly have forgotten.

Edit: And if you don't believe me, maybe you believe this page that has the passive form, too: http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/activepassive.html

Correct. Simple tenses focus on result, continuous tenses focus on process.

By tomorrow at noon, I will have painted the house.

This implies completion.

By noon tomorrow, I will have been painting the house.

This could refer to completion but the listener/reader is more likely to focus on the activity rather than it being finished.

However this is a moot point in grammar and students rarely grasp the intricacies, largely because few teachers deliver them unambiguously enough, and this, again, largely because there is such a fine line between the two.

It's like the article and the future 'going to vs will' boundaries, by and large you have to be a native speaker or called Nordlys to produce them correctly and naturally at all times.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Rec'd.

I'd say, I will have been thanking you, but it's already a completed process, with a result in the present, yet completely finished in the past and not in progress now.

Er, cheers.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Of all the GF curators that will have ever been, I will always look back on HA as the favorite that was ever a has been.

Or something like that.

A has-been who never was.

Originally posted by asromacalcio
Correct. Simple tenses focus on result, continuous tenses focus on process.

By tomorrow at noon, I will have painted the house.

This implies completion.

By noon tomorrow, I will have been painting the house.

This could refer to completion but the listener/reader is more likely to focus on the activity rather than it being finished.

Howev ...[text shortened]... o be a native speaker or called Nordlys to produce them correctly and naturally at all times.

I was asked 'what is the difference between the Future simple, and the "going to" future?', and i nearly answered....not that much.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Rec'd.

Like you had a clue.

Originally posted by HandyAndy
The page correctly states that both active and passive voices can be used in the future perfect continuous tense.

Forgetting "suddenly" may happen to one individual, but certainly not to a group of people at the same instant.
In the sense I used it, "forgotten" meant out of style, passe, not on the top of everybody's agenda. When
forgetting is a co ...[text shortened]... y be used in the
future perfect continuous tense.

At the very least, it's borderline.

Did you win yet?

Originally posted by Phlabibit
Did you win yet?

I forget.

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Like you had a clue.

Yep. Utterly clueless, doesn't know beans about 'future perfect continuous' and

from Beantown without excuse. Son of a gun, Huck. You nailed me to the tree.


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Edit: Huck, you may enjoy delving into the Koine linear or punctiliar action sart.

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
d) Future perfect continuous

Each student must think of 5 things that they are doing and will still be doing this time next year, they must also write one other thing about this activity. They must then list these things in the following way "By this time next year i will have been going to my Karate class for 5 years. I will be a brown belt and ...[text shortened]... is a fair amount of thinking involved in making up sentences for these imaginary people.

interesting...NOT! English sux! If I could speak another language I would!😠😞

Originally posted by HandyAndy
I forget.

noooo. by next week you will have been forgetting for a week.

Originally posted by duecer
interesting...NOT! English sux! If I could speak another language I would!😠😞

u talkin bout da mama tongue?

Originally posted by duecer
interesting...NOT! English sux! If I could speak another language I would!😠😞

What do you mean, you talk fluent CRAP all the time 😉

Originally posted by Nordlys
That goes to show that even ferociously brainy birds aren't that smart.

She says to refer you David Crystal, but hazards that you probably won't bother reading up.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
She says to refer you David Crystal, but hazards that you probably won't bother reading up.

Okay, so Crystal says that in traditional grammar it's usually called future tense also when referring to English, but that many linguists find that misleading.* I can't find any reference where he says English has a "future form". I would be surprised if you could find one, as "no formal future tense" seems to imply to me that there is no future form, but if you can find one, good for you. I think I'll stick with traditional grammar.

Your bird doesn't know me. 😛 By the way, I love Crystal's "The Cambridge Encyclopaedia of Language" (or more precisely the German translation of it, "Die Cambridge Enzyklopädie der Sprache" ).

*: http://tinyurl.com/374efy4