Originally posted by PocketKingsYou are also not paying two dollars per gallon more for gas than you were last year, but why should facts intrude in this discussion?
Are you paying 2 more dollars than you were this time last year for a gallon of milk. I'm not, its just for gas.
Can your post stand up by itself, it looks pretty lame.
Originally posted by PocketKingswho are you going to buy it from...most of the "independent" stations buy their gas wholesale from those guys anyway.
Anyone else get the mass email about boycotting Exxon and Mobil (same thing really)? Its actually not that bad of an idea. I'm up for anything being that I paid $3.20 a gallon this morning. It said that the one idea going around about noboby buying gas for an entire day didn't scare the big gas boys at all, because the supply and demand would still be th ...[text shortened]... y of other gas stations around to use besides them until they would lower their prices enough.
Originally posted by shortcircuitThere is no oil supply problem.
Is the concept of supply and demand so difficult to comprehend? I don't like the high prices either, but we create the problem. Europe has been getting screwed for years as have the other parts of the world. The US has been the leading producer of gasoline worldwide, but the US has never felt the price burden they have elsewhere in the world. The gasoli ...[text shortened]... d approaches or exceeds supply, the price is going to go up. Whining about it won't change it.
It is a refinery capacity problem.
Gasoline stockpiles are down because the oil companies haven't built any new refineries in years so gasoline supply is limited....oil is plentiful.
Originally posted by PocketKingsAs a matter of fact, milk is up from $1.89/gal to $3.69/gal in the last year, so yes, it is almost up $2.00 a gallon. But, we are only paying about $1.20/gal more than we were paying for gas a year ago. Maybe we should shoot all of the cows and boycott milk until the price comes down? If they don't sell it, it spoils. We will break them off at the knee. Unfortunately, gas has a much longer shelf life. All you have to worry about is separation of the fuel.
Are you paying 2 more dollars than you were this time last year for a gallon of milk. I'm not, its just for gas.
Can your post stand up by itself, it looks pretty lame.
Originally posted by jebrydzaginI almost am, pretty close actually, and definitely two dollars up from two years ago, but why should you intrude intrude on this discussion? Oh yes, that right, you shouldn't.
You are also not paying two dollars per gallon more for gas than you were last year, but why should facts intrude in this discussion?
Originally posted by PocketKingsI don't know where you live, but regular gas in eastern Virginia is $2.81 today. I don't remember it costing 81 cents per gallon one year or two years ago, but perhaps the evil oil companies have a special rate for your part of the country.
I almost am, pretty close actually, and definitely two dollars up from two years ago, but why should you intrude intrude on this discussion? Oh yes, that right, you shouldn't.
Sorry for intruding on your erudite discussion. I thought this was a public forum. Silly me!
Originally posted by jebrydzaginyes, silly you. I'm in the philadelphia area, we we have recently peaked around $3.30. Right now I'm at $3.20. Two years ago we were under two dollars. My math is slightly off, but hopefully you get the point now.
I don't know where you live, but regular gas in eastern Virginia is $2.81 today. I don't remember it costing 81 cents per gallon one year or two years ago, but perhaps the evil oil companies have a special rate for your part of the country.
Sorry for intruding on your erudite discussion. I thought this was a public forum. Silly me!
Originally posted by PocketKingsIf you were under two dollars two years ago, it was just a penny or two below. There are web sites that track these things. Therefore, at most, you are $1.25 or so higher than two years ago. I agree that your math is 'slightly' off. I get the point that gas currently costs more now than it did two years ago. I don't get the point of any correlation between higher prices and some grand conspiracy among the oil companies. Oil prices constitute about 50% of retail gas prices. Taxes are another big item. Exxon/Mobil nor any other company controls these costs. Refinery capacity is also a significant factor. We don't build new refineries here because of the NIMBY syndrome.
yes, silly you. I'm in the philadelphia area, we we have recently peaked around $3.30. Right now I'm at $3.20. Two years ago we were under two dollars. My math is slightly off, but hopefully you get the point now.
If you want to impact gas prices, drive less and encourage all your friends to do likewise. The market will react to that.
I now step down off my soapbox.
Cheers!
Originally posted by PocketKingsI have never bought gas from Exxon/Mobil.
Anyone else get the mass email about boycotting Exxon and Mobil (same thing really)? Its actually not that bad of an idea. I'm up for anything being that I paid $3.20 a gallon this morning. It said that the one idea going around about noboby buying gas for an entire day didn't scare the big gas boys at all, because the supply and demand would still be th ...[text shortened]... y of other gas stations around to use besides them until they would lower their prices enough.
Why? When the Exxon Valdez spilled 53 million gallons of crude oil onto the pristine Alaskan coast, their clean-up efforts were a joke, mostly consisting of trying to dodge the bad press they got over it, and the area is still trying to recover almost twenty years later.
I was only 12 when this happened, but I vowed never to help pay the salaries of people whose greed overcomes their responsibility to the planet.
Originally posted by SuzianneBut you don't presume only Exxon had spills? How about Russia which looses million tons regularly (but that's only Siberia) How about the Amoco Cadiz (oh that was only Europe)...or or or
I have never bought gas from Exxon/Mobil.
Why? When the Exxon Valdez spilled 53 million gallons of crude oil onto the pristine Alaskan coast, their clean-up efforts were a joke, mostly consisting of trying to dodge the bad press they got over it, and the area is still trying to recover almost twenty years later.
I was only 12 when this happened, but ...[text shortened]... ver to help pay the salaries of people whose greed overcomes their responsibility to the planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_spill
Originally posted by PonderableIt wasn't the spill per se.
But you don't presume only Exxon had spills? How about Russia which looses million tons regularly (but that's only Siberia) How about the Amoco Cadiz (oh that was only Europe)...or or or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_spill
It was their cavalier attitude about their pathetic attempts at cleaning it up.