Originally posted by dottewellIf that is your belief, then be assured that me and Phlabs are friends.
Not at all. If you think there aren't enough mods, campaign for another one. Then, if Russ decides you are right, you can campaign for a particular candidate.
That seems the fair and reasonable way of going about things.
I wouldn't mind another mod. I think, though, it should be someone who is reasonably distant from some of the current "debates" whi ...[text shortened]... campaigning" is little more than an underhand way of accusing one particular mod of bias.
We talk a lot by PM, and i have no issues with any of his decisions.
My reason for applying to be a mod before was purely due to my Dislike of Racism. If there is anything said in my part against phlabbs, be assured that it does not reflect my opinion.
Originally posted by cashthetrashI don't oppose the idea of a new mod. I oppose this sort of campaigning, and the implications regarding the existing mod team.
Sorry dot but you are the one that brought up paranoia when you act as if you oppose the idea.
I would prefer a more democratic process. It is paranoid to suggest that somehow signifies I am "afraid" of Huck being a new mod. And to link it to the PFC is to suggest that Phlabibit is protecting members of the clan, which is both untrue and rather undignified.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundThat's great. Suggest the idea of a new mod first. Win that debate.
If that is your belief, then be assured that me and Phlabs are friends.
We talk a lot by PM, and i have no issues with any of his decisions.
My reason for applying to be a mod before was purely due to my Dislike of Racism. If there is anything said in my part against phlabbs, be assured that it does not reflect my opinion.
Then, and only then, throw your hat in the ring.
Originally posted by dottewellThat's a reasonable point.
Not at all. If you think there aren't enough mods, campaign for another one. Then, if Russ decides you are right, you can campaign for a particular candidate.
That seems the fair and reasonable way of going about things.
I wouldn't mind another mod. I think, though, it should be someone who is reasonably distant from some of the current "debates" whi ...[text shortened]... campaigning" is little more than an underhand way of accusing one particular mod of bias.
Nothing constructive will ever be accomplished if someone views this as an attack on themselves or a friend.
No one wants to create more animosity.
But, I don't see how another Mod with a different perspective couldn't help but help in that regard.
If two mods tell you you're wrong aren't you going to be at least twice as likely to take it seriously.
Originally posted by dottewellAs i am not a mod, sticking up for one another is not something that has anything to do with me.
Modesty and subtlety would be two qualities that spring to mind. An appreciation of the fairest way to appoint a new mod would be another.
I also suspect Ross prefers his mods to stick up for one another, rather than undermine each other.
As for modesty, i'll wear a fig leaf. as for subtlety, according to phlabbs, he's been banned himself, so i'm not sure quite what you're talking about. . .As i've never taken up the post, i find it hard to work out exactly why you think i would not possess these characteristics, unless you have your own preconcieved ideas about me??
Originally posted by Red NightThere are already six mods, all of whom have different perspectives.
That's a reasonable point.
Nothing constructive will ever be accomplished if someone views this as an attack on themselves or a friend.
No one wants to create more animosity.
But, I don't see how another Mod with a different perspective couldn't help but help in that regard.
If two mods tell you you're wrong aren't you going to be at least twice as likely to take it seriously.
If there is a need for a new mod, win that debate first.
Then decide what kind of new mod we need for "balance".
Originally posted by SeitseI haven't personally any problem with the forums mods...
So what is the problem with another mod?
Who says if there are enough mods or not?
A new addition to the team would damage
someone or something?
mmmhhh... I wonder if... *scratches chin*
except:
the only ones I saw to post their personal judgements in the forums are BF and Phla.
My kudos for all forums mods. I think they are doing a very good job.
But I think (exceptiion made from BF and Phla) they should "show their face" more frequently here.
Working in the dark doesn't suffice. At least for me.
It's only my personal opinion, no criticism intended.
- J
Originally posted by CrazyLilTingJulia: Basically most of the Mods don't come into the General Forum.
I haven't personally any problem with the forums mods...
except:
the only ones I saw to post their personal judgements in the forums are BF and Phla.
My kudos for [b]all forums mods. I think they are doing a very good job.
But I think (exceptiion made from BF and Phla) they should "show their face" more frequently here.
Working in the d ...[text shortened]... t suffice. At least for me.
It's only my personal opinion, no criticism intended.
- J[/b]
The way that I understand it each sort of sticks to their own area.
Phlabs mostly handles the Gen Forum. Which I think is a big job for anyone.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundYour "campaign" is merely stirring the wasps' nest and encouraging talk that the current modding team is not balanced. No one has explained to me what this lack of balance consists of.
As i am not a mod, sticking up for one another is not something that has anything to do with me.
As for modesty, i'll wear a fig leaf. as for subtlety, according to phlabbs, he's been banned himself, so i'm not sure quite what you're talking about. . .As i've never taken up the post, i find it hard to work out exactly why you think i would not possess these characteristics, unless you have your own preconcieved ideas about me??
By suggesting that I and a fellow member of the PFC are somehow "afraid" of you as a mod, you make this worse. And - given what has gone before - you implicitly point the finger at one particular mod as being somehow biased. This is a rash and unfair implication.
If you really believe there is a problem based on "time online", then just campaign for another mod without pushing your own case.
Most people here prefer lightly-moderated forums. They don't want people standing for a non-existent post on a vaguely political platform.
Originally posted by Red NightIt isn't; it is with the whole board, and also with Russ. Why do you assume that because I object to someone campaigning for a non-existent post, and the associated criticism of a modding team who do a good job, that I must have some sort of agenda (other than decency and fairness)?
If, in fact, we need to win a debate to appoint another Mod, why is that debate with you?
