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The pair continue to systematically disenfranchise themselves from British support with Harry managing today to get virtually the entire news media over here calling his behaviour anything from deluded to narcissistic over his recent comments claiming he is protecting the Queen by making sure she has the right people around her, people she can trust and pulling on the memory of Diana claiming she is watching over him as he has been separating from the Monarchy.

I find it all to be a mixture of excruciating vanity, public naivety and yet also sort of strangely compelling black comedy.

What is the general opinion of the couple in the country you are based?

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We hardly ever read about that couple. If and when we do, it's simply a piece of news among other news, whereas many here are in favour of the British Royal family, and I think the Queen is still amazing.

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@torunn said
@divegeester

We hardly ever read about that couple. If and when we do, it's simply a piece of news among other news, whereas many here are in favour of the British Royal family, and I think the Queen is still amazing.
The mood here is mixed with the centre ground of opinion seeming to favour the continuity of the Monarchy but wishing to see broad reforms.

Her Maj Elizabeth is pretty much unilaterally respected for her stoicism, sense of duty and having to put up the flawed, self-centred ne’er-do-wells around her such as the revolting Andrew and more recently the disappointing Harry.

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@divegeester said
The mood here is mixed with the centre ground of opinion seeming to favour the continuity of the Monarchy but wishing to see broad reforms.

Her Maj Elizabeth is pretty much unilaterally respected for her stoicism, sense of duty and having to put up the flawed, self-centred ne’er-do-wells around her such as the revolting Andrew and more recently the disappointing Harry.
The Queen was brought up to follow the royal traditions and protocol, and she has done a remarkable unselfish contribution. Our Queen Silvia was a commoner, as was the Norwegian Queen Sonja - a difficult task for them which they have managed very well. We are lucky to have the Crown princess Victoria to follow, pretty soon I would guess. I wouldn't want it any other way.

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@divegeester said
What is the general opinion of the couple in the country you are based?
I have a stronger opinion on the behaviour of the British tabloid press, and also on Randy Andy, than on this couple.

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In American media, frequent comparisons are made between how Meghan is treated vs. Kate (Catherine).

Meghan seems to be treated in racist ways by the British media and public. A presenter for the BBC was fired after using a racist slur regarding Meghan's baby, for example.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/exclusive-meghan-markle-targeted-by-hundreds-of-racist-and-sexist-tweets-amid-plan-to-step-back_n_5e1f5b28c5b673621f6f7965

Examinations by the University of Sunderland (conducted for HuffPo UK) found hundreds of racist tweets aimed the couple, including people calling Harry a “self-loathing race traitor”.

It seems many people in Britain were upset with the idea that the Royal bloodline may have a nonwhite person.

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@vivify said
Meghan seems to be treated in racist ways by the British media and public.
There are absolutely loads of racist people in the U.K.

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@shallow-blue said
I have a stronger opinion on the behaviour of the British tabloid press, and also on Randy Andy, than on this couple.
I have a pen even stronger opinion on the clean water crisis in Africa.

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@fmf said
There are absolutely loads of racist people in the U.K.
There’s even more since Brexit.

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@divegeester said
The pair continue to systematically disenfranchise themselves from British support with Harry managing today to get virtually the entire news media over here calling his behaviour anything from deluded to narcissistic over his recent comments claiming he is protecting the Queen by making sure she has the right people around her, people she can trust and pulling on the mem ...[text shortened]... compelling black comedy.

What is the general opinion of the couple in the country you are based?
I've always thought very highly of the Brit's, but their royal family (and royal families everywhere) can best be described as "decaying gentry" Other than occasional military service, these people rarely do anything useful. Why doesn't the British government simply disband this group, use their wealth for the good of the all the British subjects, let them go and support themselves?

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@mchill said
Why doesn't the British government simply disband this group, use their wealth for the good of the all the British subjects, let them go and support themselves?
Because I doubt that they would have the consent of the electors to do that; at least not as long as Elizabeth is reigning and maybe Charles too. Personally, I doubt the British - in my lifetime anyway - will ever vote for a new system in which their head of state would be a president.

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@fmf said
Because I doubt that they would have the consent of the electors to do that; at least not as long as Elizabeth is reigning and maybe Charles too. Personally, I doubt the British - in my lifetime anyway - will ever vote for a new system in which their head of state would be a president.
I fear it might lead to total confusion. If it wasn't the Royal family, where would the money go to? Who says it would go to the common good?

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@fmf said
Because I doubt that they would have the consent of the electors to do that; at least not as long as Elizabeth is reigning and maybe Charles too. Personally, I doubt the British - in my lifetime anyway - will ever vote for a new system in which their head of state would be a president.
If the Brit's are happy with that arrangement, that's fine with me, but it seems these people should be doing something more than going on vacations, presiding over charity events, giving out awards, and getting their photos taken. Maybe they are the British version of the Kardashians.

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@mchill said
If the Brit's are happy with that arrangement, that's fine with me, but it seems these people should be doing something more than going on vacations, presiding over charity events, and giving out awards. Maybe they are the British version of the Kardashians.
Or perhaps you simply have a poor understanding of the British Royal family and how they bring in much more to the economy than they cost.

It costs each Brit something like £1.25 a year (67 million in total) while they bring in an approximate 600 million through tourism etc.

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@torunn said
I fear it might lead to total confusion. If it wasn't the Royal family, where would the money go to? Who says it would go to the common good?
At the very least, it wouldn't go to people whose only qualification was being born to the right family.

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