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Has Esperanto succeeded or failed?

Has Esperanto succeeded or failed?

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Right now, I don't think so...but that's just my opinion...

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Originally posted by Ironstar
Right now, I don't think so...but that's just my opinion...
You failed to successfully answer your own question.

That takes talent.

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lol...I mean that I think it's failed....that it hasn't succeeded...

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Does anyone else think that it's failed...if not, why?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You failed to successfully answer your own question.

That takes talent.
almost rec worthy

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Originally posted by Ironstar
Does anyone else think that it's failed...if not, why?
How can you tell?

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Originally posted by Ironstar
Does anyone else think that it's failed...if not, why?
It's a language. Can a language have an objective which it can fail at?

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of course...it is called communication...

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
It's a language. Can a language have an objective which it can fail at?
didn't esperanto have exactly that? as I recall, the whole idea was for it to become a 'big' language, a 'lingua franca', in which it miserably failed.

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sadly, Hollywood, the airline travel industry, and the Internet between them succeeded in turning low-standard English into the lingua franca displacing all attempts to get a neutral one, so Esperanto has become a hobby language only, like ancient Botswanan or whatever; and English has had to dumb itself down to words of fewer than 4 syllables and anything-goes spelling, grammar and punctuation.

"From clogs to clogs in three generations"

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Originally posted by MissOleum
sadly, Hollywood, the airline travel industry, and the Internet between them succeeded in turning low-standard English into the lingua franca displacing all attempts to get a neutral one, so Esperanto has become a hobby language only, like ancient Botswanan or whatever; and English has had to dumb itself down to words of fewer than 4 syllables and anything-goes spelling, grammar and punctuation.

"From clogs to clogs in three generations"
You're deluded if you think non-native speakers are to blame for this. Just take a look at this forum.

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I don't think non-native speakers are to blame at all - if anything, their English is more likely to be correct.

I think Political Correctness is to blame - we can't criticise our own kids' English because that's discrimination in some form, against youth, against people with "learning difficulties" or "psychosocial disadvantages" or whatever. And I know this post will attract the usual criticism from the usual suspects who think everything is a joke and nothing matters except their own egos. Now, where's my broomstick? 😛

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Originally posted by MissOleum
I don't think non-native speakers are to blame at all - if anything, their English is more likely to be correct.

I think Political Correctness is to blame - we can't criticise our own kids' English because that's discrimination in some form, against youth, against people with "learning difficulties" or "psychosocial disadvantages" or whatever. And I ...[text shortened]... hing matters except their own egos. Now, perhaps I should move this to Debates ... 😞
I fail to see the connection between your two posts. How would a success of Esperanto as a lingua franca have prevented the political correctness that you blame for the decline of the English language?

Another thing worth mentioning is that the same thing seems to happen in at least some countries with other native languages. I blame the schools.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
I blame the schools.
Burn 'Em!!!

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Originally posted by Palynka
Burn 'Em!!!
I am working on it.

Edit: I should have said "I blame education", as some countries allow home education with often far worse results