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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Hope..... what is it?



[b]Hope is the Thing with Feathers


Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;
And sore must be the storm
That could abash the little bird
That kept so many warm.

I've heard it in the chilliest ...[text shortened]... ;
Yet, never, in extremity,
It asked a crumb of me.


~Emily Dickinson


Your thoughts?[/b]
I despair.

😞

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Hope..... what is it?

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Your thoughts?
Our dimwit President's ironic slogan.

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And none at the moment, thank you for asking.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Hope..... what is it?



[b]Hope is the Thing with Feathers


Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;
And sore must be the storm
That could abash the little bird
That kept so many warm.

I've heard it in the chilliest ...[text shortened]... ;
Yet, never, in extremity,
It asked a crumb of me.


~Emily Dickinson


Your thoughts?[/b]
My Grandpa always said, "Hope in one hand, and **** in the other, and tell me which hand is fuller." I have to say the hope hand lost.

At times hope is all we have to keep on going, hope, and faith. 🙂

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Do you think Dickinson's poem is inspirational or unfounded optimism?
Unlike you to evade answering a simple question, Bobby.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Among other things, hope is a wish or desire for the future. Doesn't determinism (ultimate reality)
dismiss the concept of hope as futile and pointless? The future is written, according to this doctrine,
and no amount of wishful thinking can change it.

Do you think the Belle of Amherst was misguided when she described hope as a bird perching in
the soul and singing without pause?

I hope not.
Andy, first thanks for engaging honest conversation on the thread topic (as opposed to following the lead of those who seem time challenged or otherwise agenda focused or quite happy to hop, skip, jump around with glib responses for the sake of picking up a few pieces of old glass or worthless pebbles). Second, thanks for your patience with my purposely delayed reply. Third, nobody enjoys gagging and as Locke or somebody said, 'Confusion of information/knowledge is worse than ignorance'. So let's purpose to think the 'hope' concept, poem and language usage questions you've raised through together (2 of 3 to follow).




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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Andy, first thanks for engaging honest conversation on the thread topic (as opposed to following the lead of those who seem time challenged or otherwise agenda focused or quite happy to hop, skip, jump around with glib responses for the sake of picking up a few pieces of old glass or worthless pebbles). Second, thanks for your patience with my purposely ...[text shortened]... raised through together (2 of 3 to follow).




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Concluding Footnote: One fly to another fly, "Hey, fly... your dude's open."

Andy, though acquainted with the same mother tongue we think and speak in different languages. My efforts to bridge the gap have been intermittently aggressive (and often overly aggressive). Still burdened to communicate but have taken the decision to express my regard for you and respect for your volition by down shifting to conversationally passive. All the best. ~gb



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A simple thought that brings a faint sense of energy, light and expectation of something better to a mind steeped in dark angry musings that press with weight and foreboding for long periods of time.

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Originally posted by mg77chessit
A simple thought that brings a faint sense of energy, light and expectation of something better to a mind steeped in dark angry musings that press with weight and foreboding for long periods of time.
Welcome to Red Hot Pawn, mg77.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Concluding Footnote: One fly to another fly, "Hey, fly... your dude's open."

Andy, though acquainted with the same mother tongue we think and speak in different languages. My efforts to bridge the gap have been intermittently aggressive (and often overly aggressive). Still burdened to communicate but have taken the decision to express my regard for ...[text shortened]... shifting to conversationally passive. All the best. ~gb



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You're not on trial, Bobby. You can withdraw from the conversation anytime for any reason, or for no reason.

I was surprised when you posted Emily Dickinson's poem, particularly in view of your professed belief in
predestination. Hope suggests an uncertainty that a preordained future seems to rule out. You linked
hope with "absolute confidence," but I think Emily had a more elusive objective in mind. She defines
hope as a feeling of pure optimism with no guarantees.

And then I thought you wanted to use her poem to demonstrate the futility of impossible dreams, as
opposed to hardheaded realism. I hope not. We'd all be poorer without Emily's eloquent gift.

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I think hope is ego. Hope is you trying to influence the future.

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
My Grandpa always said, "Hope in one hand, and **** in the other, and tell me which hand is fuller." I have to say the hope hand lost.

At times hope is all we have to keep on going, hope, and faith. 🙂
I think most here are full of hope.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
You're not on trial, Bobby. You can withdraw from the conversation anytime for any reason, or for no reason.

I was surprised when you posted Emily Dickinson's poem, particularly in view of your professed belief in
predestination. Hope suggests an uncertainty that a preordained future seems to rule out. You linked
hope with "absolute confidence," ...[text shortened]...
opposed to hardheaded realism. I hope not. We'd all be poorer without Emily's eloquent gift.
Incorrect. Humans possess self awareness and self determination. While Omniscience (by definition) knew all the knowable from eternity past, Justice (i.e., fairness) respects human volition and does not stoop to meddle with it or coerce free will. Intent was simply to stimulate a vigorous open minded conversation. Yes, I intentionally dumbed down the opening post to open the door as wide as possible, in the hope many member/posters would feel comfortable in accepting the invitation to join in. ~gb



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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]Incorrect. Humans possess self awareness and self determination. While Omniscience (by definition) knew all the knowable from eternity past, Justice (i.e., fairness) respects human volition and does not stoop to meddle with it or coerce free will. Intent was simply to stimulate a vigorous open minded conversation. Yes, I intentionally dumbed down ...[text shortened]... itation to join in. ~gb



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Thanks for clarifying your position. There are more areas of agreement than conflict, and that's always a hopeful sign. 🙂

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Originally posted by acb123
It's 5am over there. Is this the only thing you do with your life ?
yes, it pretty much is. GB is a world expert on the thought of the classical Greek philosopher Mediocrities, and he delights in bringing Mediocrities to general forum since, no doubt, the real world is more forceful in its rejection of him.