@Pianoman1 saidIt still leaves the unanswered question - how did it all begin, from the very beginning, before the Big Bang, the very first thing that happened. That's unsettling if we don't believe in a greater power.
As an atheist, and as intimations of mortality creep up on me, I take great comfort from my conviction that shuffling off this mortal coil is final. Once the physical body has lost its battle with decay then all the other stuff - soul, spirit, whatever - ceases to have any energy and so vanishes. In my rather simplistic philosophy there is no hanging about in limbo, no afte ...[text shortened]... no paradise, no hell, no spiritual emanations, nothing after death. Avoids so much stress and angst!
I believe I m a theist which gives me essential peace of mind.
@KnightsChoice saidI remember hearing the name Lobsangrampa in the 70’s among my cannabis smoking friends. I’d never heard of anyone achieving an out of the body experience though I imagine that state of consciousness is easy with certain drugs, having experienced pethidine injections during labour.
Have you heard of astral travel?
When I was a teenager I died in my sleep and left my body. I was floating above my body. As I got to the ceiling, I could move my head and looked down and my body was in bed. I freaked out and quickly entered my body again. My being. Me. I was going to live on as the spirit that is me! AS far as religion I don't believe in any god that wasn't there for me.
My sister’s friend spent a time sedated in an intensive care unit during a Sepsis infection. She fortunately recovered but has lost the full use of her legs. She nearly died through it and remembers an experience when she was flying through the clouds towards Jesus but he told her it was not her her time yet and that she had to go back.
https://www.lobsangrampa.org/astral-travel.html
@KnightsChoice saidThe only drug that affected me, in a “trippy way” was LSD. The first time I experienced it was without my knowledge and it was…very frightening, because I couldn’t figure out why I was having these weird feelings and was worried that I would be caught in this state. I did, eventually “come down” and learned that a friend had dropped half a tab of yellow sunshine in my drink. I decided that I’d, of my own volition, give it another go but doing so knowing, kinda what to expect. The “trip”, that time, was way more pleasurable. I stopped using it after that. Been there done that.
The only drug I did was alcohol. I had a bad nightmare where I was trying to take a demon back to hell as everybody was blaming me for it's existence. I was chasing the demon flying through the air at supersonic speeds until some skyscrapers appeared in front of us and we both crashed into one of them. Which is where I started to leave my body in bed.
Interesting tha ...[text shortened]... ound Jesus. I wonder how it affects her. Leaving your body brings new thought to the title, 'death'.
Edit: this all transpired in 1967.
The post that was quoted here has been removedThe initial go, although being a very social person, I suddenly retreated to my bedroom. My girlfriend came in and asked what was wrong. I told her I didn’t know I just felt “weird”. She suggested a massage. As she was doing it her hands, at least to me, seemed to work there way right to my bones. My skin was like jello. I sort of left my body or at least what I remembered my body being like and that wasn’t like jello. As an aside, just before I retreated to the bedroom, I was having a game of chess, on the living room carpet, with Sir Walter Raleigh. I really thought I was. It was of course only one of the party goers.
@Great-Big-Stees saidDid you defeat Walter Raleigh?
The initial go, although being a very social person, I suddenly retreated to my bedroom. My girlfriend came in and asked what was wrong. I told her I didn’t know I just felt “weird”. She suggested a massage. As she was doing it her hands, at least to me, seemed to work there way right to my bones. My skin was like jello. I sort of left my body or at least what I remem ...[text shortened]... rpet, with Sir Walter Raleigh. I really thought I was. It was of course only one of the party goers.
He plays a strong game.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI am not “religious”, though in my earlier years I did experiment with several different religions. I am/was a Big Bang kinda guy but like Torunn said but what about before? I guess I believe that when I die my ashes will become nutrient for who knows what…a tree, or whatever and in that way a part of me will go on but a soul? Not so sure about that.🤔
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidActually I was loosing badly and just swept my hand across the board releasing the remaining pieces…mostly his of course as I had few left. That was when I realized something was not right. It was sooooo, not me.o
Did you defeat Walter Raleigh?
He plays a strong game.
@Great-Big-Stees saidThank goodness you weren't playing Napoleon. (He cheats).
Actually I was loosing badly and just swept my hand across the board releasing the remaining pieces…mostly his of course as I had few left. That was when I realized something was not right. It was sooooo, not me.o
@Great-Big-Stees saidYour energy and your spirit will have left your body and your ashes will do good where it ends up.
I am not “religious”, though in my earlier years I did experiment with several different religions. I am/was a Big Bang kinda guy but like Torunn said but what about before? I guess I believe that when I die my ashes will become nutrient for who knows what…a tree, or whatever and in that way a part of me will go on but a soul? Not so sure about that.🤔
@Great-Big-Stees saidI seem to have a special bond with crows - maybe I was one in an earlier life or will become one later. 🙂
My deepest wish is that I somehow come back as a part of a bird and preferably an accipiter. I am a birder and especially like birds of prey.👍🦅