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Originally posted by Landisqueen170Two things:
I am blessed because I live in an amazing country...flawed, in need of many improvements, but still truly amazing. Just viewing Seitse's comments underscore this....in some countries he'd be jailed or executed for speaking out against his country in any form or fashion.
How disappointing that such a nicely titled thread can so quickly turn ugly....
Go figure. Lol
- Seitse is tolerated here because the site is based in the UK, not the USA;
- the thread started out sour, with the OP being grateful for not having suffered the horrors that the US Army has inflicted, quite intentionally, on innocent civilians in various countries over the last couple of decades.
But, hey, hooray for Eaglelandia, apple pie, Agent Orange and butterfly mines, right?
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Originally posted by SeitseWhat a generalization. Yes. That happens. But it is a rare occurrence despite the media sensationalizing isolated events. And when it does, the cop should ABSOLUTELY face the consequences for his actions.
In your country, black people get shot for the mere act of existing.
The VAST majority of our police officers do NOT engage in the racist killing of black people. Just fyi 😉
Our system is not perfect by any means, and because of recent events, some things will need to change. Unfortunately, one thing that will change is that a whole bunch of good people will now choose not to become police officers. Additionally, our "good" cops will feel paralyzed to do their jobs under scrutiny that is excessive and PC.
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Originally posted by Shallow BlueShallow Blue -
Two things:
- Seitse is tolerated here because the site is based in the UK, not the USA;
- the thread started out sour, with the OP being grateful for not having suffered the horrors that the US Army has inflicted, quite intentionally, on innocent civilians in various countries over the last couple of decades.
But, hey, hooray for Eaglelandia, apple pie, Agent Orange and butterfly mines, right?
Seitse displays an American flag (not proudly, I'm sure) And if he wants to be critical of our country, I think that is just awesome. I support his right to say every last thing he posts even though I find it to be garbage. I always wonder why people stay here when they do not seem to like it? I also wonder if people with endless grievances about our nation every do anything at all to try and "fix" it? To make it a better place?
Please do not forget to include your own vicious military. They have stood shoulder to shoulder with many of our soldiers during many missions in this war on terror 😉 As have dozens upon dozens of others nations. Oh, and some of those missions your country were clandestine...so when you Google, please be aware of that 😉
Yes, that's what our soldiers do. Slaughter innocent civilians... lots of women & children, of course.... in every corner of the world. They wake up in the morning, put on their combat boots & off they go. It gives them great pleasure and they look forward to the next territory that we will invade.
Chaney3 - this was a great idea for a thread. Something positive for a change. Some people don't count their blessings, and therefore, have nothing good to say - ever.
FYI, to anyone that is reading this thread. When I created my OP, I was merely feeling grateful to have all my limbs. Period.
It was NOT my intention to engage in disputes with posters from different countries regarding the particulars of war. It was also NOT my intention to dismiss the combat troops from all walks of life who have been unfortunate to lose limbs, or suffer severe physical and mental disabilities, regardless of country.
Sheeeeesh, I was merely expressing gratitude that I have been fortunate enough to not be in combat, and have lost a limb. That was my feeling that compelled me to create this thread.
Edit: After reading my OP again, I can see how one might perceive that I was ONLY speaking about Americans who are engaged in war. That was not my intention.
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Originally posted by chaney3I apologize Chaney3. You are totally right - this was not a thread intended to be a debate forum. Awesome of you to even think to do it because it is easy for us all to forget the wonderful things in our life. So THANK YOU!
FYI, to anyone that is reading this thread. When I created my OP, I was merely feeling grateful to have all my limbs. Period.
It was NOT my intention to engage in disputes with posters from different countries regarding the particulars of war. It was also NOT my intention to dismiss the combat troops from all walks of life who have been unfortunate to ...[text shortened]... ive that I was ONLY speaking about Americans who are engaged in war. That was not my intention.
Both Seitse and Shallow Blue seemed unable to find a real blessing. Kind of sad. I will help them. lol Seitse - I think you are American based on your flag, but who knows? If so, God Bless you for speaking your mind. even when others, like myself, think you are hateful and uninformed. Despite that, your freedom of speech is a blessing for you to have & for us to hear. It pains me to say this, but it is true 😉
Shallow Blue...your blessing? It's called, "Operation Market Garden." Look it up if you must. Our evil country & our allies "invaded" yours to save you from German rule. How quickly we forget. No gratitude...but that's ok, Shallow. We'd do it all again for our friends. 🙂
Originally posted by Landisqueen170O.k., kid, I'm here just for the lulz, but I will take a small break to school you.
What a generalization.
It is not a generalization but the whole foundation of the prosperity you enjoy.
The U.S. became a true superpower by fueling the cotton-hungry industrial
revolution, and it did so by means of growing the crop on stolen land, using
mistreated, unpaid slaves. There is no U.S. as super power without a double
rape, that of the First Nations and that of the African slaves. From that
moment on, the construction of capitalism has been built upon pillage and
abuse, from the original dispossessed to those countries which got
ravaged so the machine could keep tunneling raw materials and selling
goods back to them: Chile, Honduras, Guatemala, Iran, etc. The role of
USAID, CIA and the Ford Foundation is well documented in Washington's
maneuvers as indicated by Friedmanite-loving corporate elites.
Such a system cannot survive without perpetuating the abuse over the
oppressed people. That is why blacks rot by the hundreds of thousands
in the privatized penitentiary system and Natives die of liver failure in
reservations... still over 200 years after. The institutions which maintain the
prosperity of the 1% (plus the crumbles fed to the white portion of the
remaining 99😵, are built over exploitation dynamics. It is the logic of
power to entrench itself and, in the Western world, modeled by force from
the Bretton Woods command centers, that coagulation has taken place
over racial lines --precisely because those were the lines as originally
drawn.
If you want to be orphan from ignorance one day, read Baptist's "The Half
Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism."
Then try Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". And close with Graeber's "Debt:
The First 5,000 Years." Once you're done, I'll feed you more scholarly tomes.
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Originally posted by SeitseConsider a move? 😉
O.k., kid, I'm here just for the lulz, but I will take a small break to school you.
It is not a generalization but the whole foundation of the prosperity you enjoy.
The U.S. became a true superpower by fueling the cotton-hungry industrial
revolution, and it did so by means of growing the crop on stolen land, using
mistreated, unpaid slaves. There is no ...[text shortened]... Graeber's "Debt:
The First 5,000 Years." Once you're done, I'll feed you more scholarly tomes.
Originally posted by Landisqueen170Is that your answer? Did you even read? Did I waste my sapience on you?
Consider a move? 😉
Stop wasting my time. If you'll switch lulz for arguments, at least try to
sustain them intelligently.
Just FYI, I am neither an American nor I live in the U.S. Actually, I am a
North Korean currently training Cuban commandos in Iran for the purpose
of... er... science.
P.S. And if that is your response to any American critical of its country,
you are precisely what is wrong with the sheep among the 99%. You
are the disease of American society. True patriots don't murder children
for multinationals to make a buck; true patriots are critical of their country
and search for true participatory empowerment among the dispossessed.
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Originally posted by SeitseYes, I read Seitse. lol It is my hope that my silence speaks volumes. You responded to nothing of what I wrote.
Is that your answer? Did you even read? Did I waste my sapience on you?
Stop wasting my time. If you'll switch lulz for arguments, at least try to
sustain them intelligently.
Just FYI, I am neither an American nor I live in the U.S. Actually, I am a
North Korean currently training Cuban commandos in Iran for the purpose
of... er... science.
P.S. ...[text shortened]... cal of their country
and search for true participatory empowerment among the dispossessed.
Shall I remind you? This is a "blessing" forum...and I apologized to the original poster.
I have a full and grateful heart because of you, Seitse. For today, you provided me with the blessing of laughter. And for that I am genuinely grateful. And perhaps you did not even intend to? Which makes your "gift" just that more precious 🙂
Here is my gift of humor in return ... just for you Seitse, to make you smile...
Guess what?! I will have you know that my mother was a police officer in North Korea back in the day! I kid you not! lol And although she executed many, many people and their extended families for making a call on their cell phones...not ONCE...did she EVER kill a black person while she was on duty! I know, I know...hard to believe...but I would not joke about such a thing! I know there is only like one black person possibly living there, but this is besides the point, isn't it?! lol
Seitse, "take down" your American flag? Please? You are angry? Confused? Bitter? Lonely? All of these things? That doesn't make you a bad person.
Thank you again for the laughter. There is no greater blessing I would argue 🙂
Originally posted by Landisqueen170Where was the US when Holland was invaded?
Our evil country & our allies "invaded" yours (Holland) to save you from German rule. How quickly we forget. No gratitude...but that's ok, Shallow. We'd do it all again for our friends. 🙂
Who went to their aid?
Certainly not the US.
Had to wait for Germany to Declare War on them.
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Originally posted by wolfgang59hmmmm....very curious, Wolfgang. The people of the Netherlands might beg to differ with you though & I think they would know? They held a massive commemorative event in 2014 to show their gratitude to our forces for their liberation. And many families in that region "adopt" our buried soldiers...caring for their grave and showing their respects. Strange, isn't it?
Operation Market Garden was unsuccessful.
Bold ... but unsuccessful.
Made a good movie though _ "A Bridge Too Far"
Originally posted by Landisqueen170No apology needed Landisqueen. It seems to me that most threads end up taking a different course at some point or another.
I apologize Chaney3. You are totally right - this was not a thread intended to be a debate forum. Awesome of you to even think to do it because it is easy for us all to forget the wonderful things in our life. So THANK YOU!
Both Seitse and Shallow Blue seemed unable to find a real blessing. Kind of sad. I will help them. lol Seitse - I think you ar ...[text shortened]... ickly we forget. No gratitude...but that's ok, Shallow. We'd do it all again for our friends. 🙂
If a different debate has formed....I would never ask any individual to not state their opinion, and defend their position. If some posters cannot find any blessings in their life, and instead, would like to debate about America, war, or something else.....then so be it.
Originally posted by chaney3They're jealous. That's why they throw so many spears.
No apology needed Landisqueen. It seems to me that most threads end up taking a different course at some point or another.
If a different debate has formed....I would never ask any individual to not state their opinion, and defend their position. If some posters cannot find any blessings in their life, and instead, would like to debate about America, war, or something else.....then so be it.
Originally posted by Landisqueen170No logical argument, I see. You're just a doofus. Carry on.
Yes, I read Seitse. lol It is my hope that my silence speaks volumes. You responded to nothing of what I wrote.
Shall I remind you? This is a "blessing" forum...and I apologized to the original poster.
I have a full and grateful heart because of you, Seitse. For today, you provided me with the blessing of laughter. And for that I am genuinely ...[text shortened]... bad person.
Thank you again for the laughter. There is no greater blessing I would argue 🙂