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    05 Jan '18 14:08
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Could you explain why "tinker" is considered "offensive"?
    I didn't actually know what a 'tinker' was until I looked it up. It is defined as someone who travels from place to place mending metal utensils.

    'If ifs and ands were pots and pans there'd be no need for tinkers.' is an expression I seem to recall from childhood, although I don't have a clue what it means.

    'Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor, rich man, poor man,beggar man, thief.' was another childish saying, maybe used when skipping or something?

    Not to give a 'tinkers cuss' was not to care at all about something, and 'you little tinker' was a mild rebuke to a naughty child.

    None of which moves anything forward really, but it passed a few minutes...
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    05 Jan '18 14:501 edit
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    Calling a child a 'tinker' was short for you little stinker.
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    05 Jan '18 15:03
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
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    Calling a child a 'tinker' was short for you little stinker.
    No, it wasn't. It's an ethnic slur against Irish and Gypsy (who consist of more than just Roma, who are trying to side-line the others) travelers, who often were in fact itinerant tinkers as well as horse-traders (and, yes, sometimes less salubrious trades).
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    05 Jan '18 15:05
    Originally posted by @coquette
    Trump
    Trump was always slightly offensive (it's cruder thsn fart, anyway) it's just more so now.
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    05 Jan '18 15:05
    Spade, but only in the colonies, really.
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    05 Jan '18 15:16
    Originally posted by @fmf
    What other words have become deemed, in your lifetime, as being offensive - but only by some, and not by all?
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    05 Jan '18 16:32
    Originally posted by @shallow-blue
    Trump was always slightly offensive (it's cruder thsn fart, anyway) it's just more so now.
    Trump has undone the good work done by Trumpton.



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    05 Jan '18 18:27
    Originally posted by @fmf
    The word "tinker" is considered offensive by some people.
    I think a tinker is a wanderer, a gypsy, not really invested in your community.
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    05 Jan '18 19:20
    Originally posted by @shallow-blue
    No, it wasn't. It's an ethnic slur against Irish and Gypsy (who consist of more than just Roma, who are trying to side-line the others) travelers, who often were in fact itinerant tinkers as well as horse-traders (and, yes, sometimes less salubrious trades).
    Yes it was.
    The term "little tinker" means naughty child.
    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/tinker
    tinker
    /ˈtɪŋkə/
    noun
    1. (especially in former times) a person who makes a living by travelling from place to place mending pans and other metal utensils.

    •Britishderogatory
    a Gypsy or other person living in an itinerant community.

    2. Britishinformal
    a mischievous child.
    "little tinkers, we were"
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    05 Jan '18 19:22
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Could you explain why "tinker" is considered "offensive"?
    ... only by some tinkers I suspect.
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    05 Jan '18 21:45
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Yes it was.
    The term "little tinker" means naughty child.
    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/tinker
    tinker
    /ˈtɪŋkə/
    noun
    1. (especially in former times) a person who makes a living by travelling from place to place mending pans and other metal utensils.

    •Britishderogatory
    a Gypsy or other person living in an itinerant community.

    2. Britishinformal
    a mischievous child.
    "little tinkers, we were"
    In which sense does this prove that 'Tinker' is a shortened form of 'Stinker'?
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    05 Jan '18 21:54
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Yes it was.
    The term "little tinker" means naughty child.
    Yes, but that's derived from the previous slang meaning of tinker for a traveler, which was from tinker for the profession. A tinker could indeed, after those previous meanings, be a general ruffian and then a naughty child; what it never was was short for *"little stinker". That's a ridiculous, 2000s style of folk etymology.
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    05 Jan '18 22:33
    Originally posted by @drewnogal
    I don’t mind the word elderly. The one I really dislike is pensioner as to
    me it gives a mental image of an older person who does nothing with
    their lives except collect their state pension payments.
    I feel the same about these words - 'elderly' is a nice word for somebody getting old but not necessarily inactive. Pensioner is someone who doesn't work for a living any more.
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    05 Jan '18 22:35
    Originally posted by @fmf
    "If IFS and BUTS were pots and pans, there would be no tinkers my friend'

    The word "tinker" is considered offensive by some people.

    What other words have become deemed, in your lifetime, as being offensive - but only by some, and not by all?
    I was going to say FMF, but I am trying to get off on the right foot in this New Year. 😉

    -VR
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