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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Peter the Apostle who was hung upside down.

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Most probably not correct. The point in crucification is to make the person suffer. To crucify somebody upside down would beat that purpose.
I know of course that the legend should show the modesty of Peter, but it is ill conceived IMHO.


Originally posted by Ponderable
Most probably not correct. The point in crucification is to make the person suffer. To crucify somebody upside down would beat that purpose.
I know of course that the legend should show the modesty of Peter, but it is ill conceived IMHO.
I respect your opinions.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
I think the lad who really went against the grain and set himself up for ridicule was Charles Darwin. His was a really revolutionary concept and it definitely went against the grain of the thinking of the time. It still does.
I'm afraid that's a myth. Not only did Darwin not single-handedly invent the theory of evolution (he nicked lots of ideas from French and German biologists), but he wasn't all that controversial at first. It was only when the Victorian era got to its stuffiest that more than a handful of troublemakers started calling him names.

Richard

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
I respect your opinions.
Thank you.


Originally posted by Shallow Blue
I'm afraid that's a myth. Not only did Darwin not single-handedly invent the theory of evolution (he nicked lots of ideas from French and German biologists), but he wasn't all that controversial at first. It was only when the Victorian era got to its stuffiest that more than a handful of troublemakers started calling him names.

Richard
So you were there, & know this as FACT? 😛


Originally posted by Very Rusty
So you were there, & know this as FACT? 😛
Actually this is well documented. You need not be eyewitness. Darwin as a good scientist gave his sources.
If you want to go there probably wikipedia will be already of help.


Originally posted by Ponderable
Actually this is well documented. You need not be eyewitness. Darwin as a good scientist gave his sources.
Yes, and it's surprising how many modern-day "scientists" don't understand this principle, and just continue to spread the Darwin-was-God myth.

Richard


Originally posted by Ponderable
Actually this is well documented. You need not be eyewitness. Darwin as a good scientist gave his sources.
If you want to go there probably wikipedia will be already of help.
How can we believe everything we read?

The bible is not believed by many, & was documented long before Darwin was gleam in his father's eye.



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What bothers folks the most I believe is GB is actually superior to them! 😛


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Words to live by from Les (Claypool of Primus), from the song and album "Antipop"

"I am the anti-pop
I'll run against the grain til the day I drop."

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By the way, if you want a real controversial scientist, who went against the grain, was ridiculed and ignored by his contemporaries, and is now considered to have been basically correct by everybody except a few nutjobs: Alfred Wegener, the guy who discovered plate continental drift. He published the book of that title in 1912, was generally thought to have had an interesting but unlikely idea - he had a few adherents, but most scientists were sceptical, and in the USA the establishment was actively and occasionally vituperatively hostile - died in 1930, and was not recognised to have been correct until the 1950s and '60s.

Richard


Originally posted by Shallow Blue
By the way, if you want a real controversial scientist, who went against the grain, was ridiculed and ignored by his contemporaries, and is now considered to have been basically correct by everybody except a few nutjobs: Alfred Wegener, the guy who discovered plate continental drift. He published the book of that title in 1912, was generally thou ...[text shortened]... died in 1930, and was not recognised to have been correct until the 1950s and '60s.

Richard
I spy a crusader, earnestly at work.


Originally posted by Very Rusty
What bothers folks the most I believe is GB is actually superior to them! 😛
So you do actually believe one human is above another, or superior?

If you do, I really have mis-read you since we met.

Very sad statement indeed. :'(

-m.