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@divegeester said
Yes you did.

Here.
Where? Show me the words.

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@A-Unique-Nickname said
Where? Show me the words.
I’ve just “shown you the words”

If you meant something other than what you wrote you can always clarify yourself.

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@divegeester said
I’ve just “shown you the words”

If you meant something other than what you wrote you can always clarify yourself.
Where in there post did I say the girl should be paid the UK minimum wage? You're seeing things.

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@A-Unique-Nickname said
Where in there post did I say the girl should be paid the UK minimum wage? You're seeing things.
Feel free to clarify what you meant in that post I quoted.

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@A-Unique-Nickname

Countries are obviously free to set their own minimum wage but should there be an international minimum when workers are employed by companies based in other countries and especially when they're dealing with customers from those countries like the girl from the Philippines working for Virgin?



"Should" is a difficult concept. Welcome to capitalism. The idea is that "the unseen hand of the market" is making things okay for everyone.
This is however not true. It could be true if all the world was one homogenious market. As you found out, there are huge differences in the world.

Question what are you doing to help to equalize the state of living in the world?
I find this to be very difficult

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I live in a wealthy country. Poor countries need rich countries to provide them with employment, otherwise there'd be starvation. We buy both goods and services from poorer countries, so as a society we're saving money on those things. However, we also import people from those countries to work here, and we pay them exactly the same as we pay the locals. There's a huge queue of people waiting to come here, collect those higher wages, support their families back home comfortably and save money to set themselves up financially when they eventually return. I don't think there's a lot of exploitation going on there. It's quite another matter when Apple pays $80 for an iPhone and retails it for $800. That's a clear case of exploitation of all the parties involved. Thr only winner is Apple who don't even bother to pay tax.

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@Kewpie said
I live in a wealthy country. Poor countries need rich countries to provide them with employment, otherwise there'd be starvation. We buy both goods and services from poorer countries, so as a society we're saving money on those things. However, we also import people from those countries to work here, and we pay them exactly the same as we pay the locals. There's a huge que ...[text shortened]... xploitation of all the parties involved. Thr only winner is Apple who don't even bother to pay tax.
I read somewhere that it costs around $10 to make an iPhone, not sure if that's true but I'd imagine it's much less than $80. Considering there's perfectly good phones on the market for around $100-200 at retail price.

People coming from poorer countries to work and get better wages in other countries is important for all economies. The UK is finding out how how much it needed EU workers. Rich countries proving jobs in poorer countries I'm not so sure about, they move there to exploit cheap labor and cheap recourses, not to help the people in those countries. In fact they often do more damage than good.

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@divegeester said
“Obviously”… Why?

Minimum wage limits are based on country specific conditions.
How could one country enforce wage levels on another?
The obvious solution is a singular world wide economy. But that's for future generations.

A person must have a country of residence. I would therefore presume that the minimum wage would be connected to that.
However, say on a cruise ship, this would lead to large differences in the wages being given.

Another option would be using the flag the cruise ship is sailing under: that's the country the minimum wage is based on.
It would probably force companies to try to sail under the cheapest flag... but they do that quite often already.

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@shavixmir said
The obvious solution is a singular world wide economy. But that's for future generations.

A person must have a country of residence. I would therefore presume that the minimum wage would be connected to that.
However, say on a cruise ship, this would lead to large differences in the wages being given.

Another option would be using the flag the cruise ship is sailin ...[text shortened]... ably force companies to try to sail under the cheapest flag... but they do that quite often already.
Call centre agents operating from cruise ships the world over will be pleased to hear about this when you guys are able to establish the new world order.

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@divegeester said
Call centre agents operating from cruise ships the world over will be pleased to hear about this when you guys are able to establish the new world order.
Je ne sais pas.

I reckon the world will go the way of the universal basic income, and people will opt to work for various amounts of hours...
And if a can of coke is the same price everywhere, it just makes life so much easier.

Why all the hassle?

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@shavixmir said
Je ne sais pas.

I reckon the world will go the way of the universal basic income, and people will opt to work for various amounts of hours...
And if a can of coke is the same price everywhere, it just makes life so much easier.

Why all the hassle?
I agree with you but people especially in different countries just do not want the same things. It would be nice if things were the same price everywhere but that is just not the way the world works.

-VR

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@shavixmir said
Je ne sais pas.

I reckon the world will go the way of the universal basic income, and people will opt to work for various amounts of hours...
And if a can of coke is the same price everywhere, it just makes life so much easier.

Why all the hassle?
Good luck in your dream world.

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@divegeester said
Good luck in your dream world.
Don’t people from Manchester move to Glasgow without any hassles?

It would seem to me a problem of scale, rather than possibility.

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@Very-Rusty said
I agree with you but people especially in different countries just do not want the same things. It would be nice if things were the same price everywhere but that is just not the way the world works.

-VR
People in the same country don’t want the same things either.

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@shavixmir said
Don’t people from Manchester move to Glasgow without any hassles?

It would seem to me a problem of scale, rather than possibility.
Please don’t start all that bloody nonsense again.
Live in the real world not your fantasy land.

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