Originally posted by sjegDoyle was born in Edinburgh.
1) What makes you proud to be Scottish? Are you takinhg over in the dialogue?
2) I meant contemporary novelist. Who sells more books than he, from Scotland?
Side point:
Actually, Arthur Conan DOYLE was of Irish extraction, doofus. Is doofus an example of your rich Caledonian lexicon, or just evidence that you are a fan of the O.C.?
3) So long and imp ...[text shortened]... he fellow who invented tarmac?
{Wipes tear from eye}
Wud tha eye cud also be Scawtish.
Bobby Thomson was born in Glasgow.
Yes, he invented tarmac.
Almost everything we use or hold dear was invented by a Scot.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundSlightly disappointed that you didn't answer my question (I can only assume that a 'Nigel' is someone from England?)... however, a 'Jock' (as you're well aware) is simply someone from Scotland... a 'Mick\Paddy' is someone from Ireland...
what's a Jock?
Unless you're just buzzing for a fight, in which case you deserve a worse title than that, but i don't blanket insult a country the way some people do.
a 'Taff' is from Wales...
a 'Paki' is from Pakistan...
a 'Frog' is from France...
a 'Kraut' is from Germany...
From my point of view, none of these names are meant in a derogatory way... I get called a 'Brit' and don't take offence.
You're right, they are blanket terms, but certainly not intended to insult anyone.
Unfortunately the likes of the BNP have hijacked many of these terms (like they stole the Union flag), and so people that still use these terms get labelled as a racist or worse... which I am not!
I do believe that some people are far too sensitive about things like this, I can see nothing wrong in calling a spade a spade - and as I'm happy to dish it out, I'm also more than happy to receive it back...
Not looking for a fight especially, just putting my views across...
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Originally posted by blade68On the contrary, these terms are indeed derogatory, and all of the ones you mentioned were english terms for other nationalities. As for the term "Brit", that is not a name for the English where i come from, where i come from they are called "Sassanach", or "Poofs" when they refer to us as Jocks, but as i said i prefer not to blanket insult, so tend to drop the 's' when discussing such matters.
Slightly disappointed that you didn't answer my question (I can only assume that a 'Nigel' is someone from England?)... however, a 'Jock' (as you're well aware) is simply someone from Scotland... a 'Mick\Paddy' is someone from Ireland...
a 'Taff' is from Wales...
a 'Paki' is from Pakistan...
a 'Frog' is from France...
a 'Kraut' is from Germany...
From ..
Not looking for a fight especially, just putting my views across...
The idea that the term "paddy", or "Frog" is not derogatory is actually quite laughable, and you obviously do not know what you are talking about, but i will accept that this is a miscalculation on your part.
Just so you know, other terms that are not terms of indearment are...
Spick
wop
paki
yid
nigger
and . . .spade for that matter.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Originally posted by blade68Eeep. Well, have a gander at this thread- it might give you a laugh.
Slightly disappointed that you didn't answer my question (I can only assume that a 'Nigel' is someone from England?)... however, a 'Jock' (as you're well aware) is simply someone from Scotland... a 'Mick\Paddy' is someone from Ireland...
a 'Taff' is from Wales...
a 'Paki' is from Pakistan...
a 'Frog' is from France...
a 'Kraut' is from Germany...
From ...[text shortened]... ..
Not looking for a fight especially, just putting my views across...
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=52095&page=1
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundOh HH, you are so predictable in your opinions on topics with a P.C. touch. I could guess at them and write your posts for you. 😕
On the contrary, these terms are indeed derogatory, and all of the ones you mentioned were english terms for other nationalities. As for the term "Brit", that is not a name forr the English where i come from, where i come from they are called "Sassanach", or "Poofs" when they reffer to us as Jociks, but as i said i prefer not to blanket insult, so t ...[text shortened]... you are talking about, but i will accept that this is a miscalculation on your part.
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Originally posted by sjegYou live in your fantasy world, i'll live in mine.
Oh HH, you are so predictable in your opinions on topics with a P.C. touch. I could guess at them and write your posts for you. 😕
I however, know that if i went around Dublin here calling everyone Paddy, that it would not take long for my point to be proved right, same if you wenty round my country calling everyone Jock, or around Cardiff say'ng "Hey Taffy".
Just because you live in a fantasy world, don't make it so.
oh yeah, i don't particularly care much for the subject, i was just speaking fact. If some guy takes offence at being called Nigel, then says "but what i said wasn't bad", then i have a right to reply. . .that's life.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundYour comment about not knowing what I'm talking about reeks of the playground... you don't have a clue who I am.
On the contrary, these terms are indeed derogatory, and all of the ones you mentioned were english terms for other nationalities. As for the term "Brit", that is not a name forr the English where i come from, where i come from they are called "Sassanach", or "Poofs" when they reffer to us as Jocks, but as i said i prefer not to blanket insult, so te ...[text shortened]...
yid
nigger
and . . .spade for that matter.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Any words, are just exactly that... words.
It's how people choose to interpret them that makes them offensive. Do you think I'd be offended at being called a Sassenach? No... I realise that it is just a word...
Grow up.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundWhen exactly did I say that I was offended at being called a 'Nigel'?
You live in your fantasy world, i'll live in mine.
I however, know that if i went around Dublin here calling everyone Paddy, that it would not take long for my point to be proved right, same if you wenty round my country calling everyone Jock, or around Cardiff say'ng "Hey Taffy".
Just because you live in a fantasy world, don't make it so.
...[text shortened]... then says "but what i said wasn't bad", then i have a right to reply. . .that's life.
I asked what one was... that surely shows that my mind is open?
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Originally posted by blade68Well now you know that it is taken as an insult, it is up to you how you proceed from now on. In the future i will take it for granted that you are trying to insult me because you have been informed and chose not to listen.
Your comment about not knowing what I'm talking about reeks of the playground... you don't have a clue who I am.
Any words, are just exactly that... words.
It's how people choose to interpret them that makes them offensive. Do you think I'd be offended at being called a Sassenach? No... I realise that it is just a word...
Grow up.
Why would you prefer to defend the use of the word rather than just deal with it, and move on ?
Like i said, i'm not much bothered myself, but your insistence fascinates me.
Originally posted by blade68The more I read these forums, the more I am shocked that people in other parts of the world seem to be so far behind the US in matters of race relations.
I can see nothing wrong in calling a spade a spade - and as I'm happy to dish it out, I'm also more than happy to receive it back...
It stuns me, before joining this site I would have thought just the opposite.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundYour hipocritical comments are quite funny...
Well now you know that it is taken as an insult, it is up to you how you proceed from now on. In the future i will take it for granted that you are trying to insult me because you have been informed and chose not to listen.
Why would you prefer to defend the use of the word rather than just deal with it, and move on ?
I will always defend words, any words.... they're part of our language, so why shouldn't we use them?
Sadly the governments and the so called 'watchdogs' are all too eager to jump all over certain word usage for fear of causing offence...
We are adults and should be able to deal with stuff in an adult manner... when I use certain terms, they're not meant to be insulting. I've got Irish mates that I call Paddy, and Scottish mates that I call Jock... I've also got Asian mates that I call Paki and Abdul - and it's remarkable (according to you!), but none of them take offence!!
Maybe that's 'cos they know me, and know I mean nothing by it?
I will concede that when certain words are in print form they can take on a different meaning...
Enough said on the matter as far as I'm concerned.
Originally posted by Red NightPlease don't tell me you're holding up America as a role model for the World?
The more I read these forums, the more I am shocked that people in other parts of the world seem to be so far behind the US in matters of race relations.
It stuns me, before joining this site I would have thought just the opposite.