Originally posted by steerpikeHand up here. I dumped the MS IE/OE bundle and switched to the mozilla suite. Superb browser and no baggage. Some choose to run the stand alones independantly - Thunderbird for mail/ Firefox for a browser - not much in it but once you change you'll never go back. Russ et/al give Mozilla the thumbs up as well.
With the continuing security problems that plague the Microsoft browser, how many people have decided to switch to a more secure alternative? Even if only for the secure stuff?
skeeter
Originally posted by skeeterQuick questions....
Hand up here. I dumped the MS IE/OE bundle and switched to the mozilla suite. Superb browser and no baggage. Some choose to run the stand alones independantly - Thunderbird for mail/ Firefox for a browser - not much in it but once you chang ...[text shortened]... back. Russ et/al give Mozilla the thumbs up as well.
skeeter
Once you switch to mozilla, can you completely uninstall and remove IE? Also, does it allow you to copy over your favorites from the browser and your address book for the e-mail?
thanks, Marc
Originally posted by mwmillerYep, IE favourites become "bookmarks" and it assimilates all your address book. You cannot uninstall IE as it is bundled with "Windows" but Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird becomes the default browser/mail handler and so you can disable all those security update/ patches.
Quick questions....
Once you switch to mozilla, can you completely uninstall and remove IE? Also, does it allow you to copy over your favorites from the browser and your address book for the e-mail?
thanks, Marc
skeeter
PS If any one wants a "walk thru" I'll post it.
Originally posted by skeeterI agree with your comments almost 100%; my only concern is that I am sure that RHP is slower when using Firefox 0.9 than when I use IE6. This could be in my mind though, there is certainly plenty of space there
Yep, IE favourites become "bookmarks" and it assimilates all your address book. You cannot uninstall IE as it is bundled with "Windows" but Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird becomes the default browser/mail handler and so you can disable all those security update/ patches.
skeeter
PS If any one wants a "walk thru" I'll post it.
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Originally posted by skeeterI'd quite like to move from IE because so many people have told me the alternatives are better. My problem is that I am used to IE, I know how to make myself 'safe' with it and I know how to manipulate it to suit my needs. How easy are Moz and the rest to get the hang of?
Yep, IE favourites become "bookmarks" and it assimilates all your address book. You cannot uninstall IE as it is bundled with "Windows" but Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird becomes the default browser/mail handler and so you can disable all those security update/ patches.
skeeter
PS If any one wants a "walk thru" I'll post it.
Things I need to be able to do include cookie handling (as few as possible), active X & Java etc blocking, proxy options... I had enough trouble when I upgraded my IE a few weeks ago and didn't realise that cookie settings were in a separate place - I picked up enough spyware in a few days to nearly kill my delapidated PC.
Do the other browsers use more or less PC power than IE because currently my PC nearly dies when downloading large screens and I run out of virtual memory. Any fix for that would also be appreciated.
Jon
Firefox is great and I've seen a great speed increase over my ISDN connection. I expect you won't really see the difference on broadband connections etc.
The only problem is that alot of developers only develop and test using IE and therefore some sites don't work correctly when using Firefox. Some of the banking and shopping sites that I use have this problem and it's very annoying.
I've used firefox and its predecessors (firebird, phoenix) for years -- they're far superior IMHO to IE. There may be issues with plugins and support for some of the more involved languages (ie. active X), but I don't know, since I refuse to use active X. I have never had significant problems, although the old version of firefox I use at home has some java issues. Generally, though, I've seen no security problems, less crashing/hanging, and more user-modifiability in the standalone mozilla programs. Ditto with thunderbird vs. eudora actually. (Don't even talk to me about outlook.)
I don't know whether firefox uses less power, but I'd imagine so simply because it uses very little hd space, and loads faster, which indicates to my non-technical self a smaller ram footprint...
Originally posted by mwmillerIt depends what version of Windows you are running, if you're using the more up to date versions, Windows 2000 or XP it is not possible to completely uninstall IE as it is a fundamental part of the operating system.
Quick questions....
Once you switch to mozilla, can you completely uninstall and remove IE? Also, does it allow you to copy over your favorites from the browser and your address book for the e-mail?
thanks, Marc
Originally posted by NicolaiS3 days ago,I switched to Mozilla Firefox again(i also used it last year but switched back to IE).Pure agony!It's incredible slow,pages often do not load at all,it simply refused to import all my IE favorites.Uninstall and re-install didn't solve the problem.Tired of all those 'page cannot be viewed' and 'action timed out' messages I now use Mozilla.
The first time I opened RHP with Mozilla it seemed slower. But after a while it became faster the IE.
Loopt als een tiet! 😉 Like clockwork 😀 No problems!
Sir Lot.
After Skeeters advice I've been trying Mozilla. I'm using it for RHP right now. It does seem to have limitations as to the number of sites that it can read/are written for it. It also has this annoying thing where the cursor lies partly over the last letter typed so I can't tell if I typo'd or not without moving the cursor.
There are a couple of nice features to it. It installed & imported my favourites with no effort and image maniplation is easier. It also appears to have to have java etc installed in it, whic further limits the sites you can use it for but avoids all the hassels java etc can involve like privacy breaches.
At the moment I'm using IE and Mozilla, IE for anything Mozilla can't handle. Is there any disadvantage to doing this? Both browsers appear to run side by side perfectly happily.
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It's popular to bash microsoft for security holes....and with good reason. However most popular internet applications in use have had at least one security hole found, and the more popular (what's more popular than IE?) the more are found.
Example: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/31/0037210&tid=154&tid=128&tid=172
This is a mozilla security bug, that the mozilla group knew about for 5 years!, and left unpatched....before somebody else found it and disclosed it for all to see.
Keeping your systems up to date is your best bet. The more mozilla is used, the more security holes/bugs people are sure to find.
Tim