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Originally posted by Alpha10Actually, that is not irony.
The leader of the 'Losing Is Also An Art' clan is the lowest rated player on the site.
Irony: "Incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity"
Since the 'Losing is Also an Art' clan is expected to lose, then it can also be said that the leader of the clan would be expected to lose quite often.
So, having a low rating is the expected result, and is thus not irony. It's just funny.
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Originally posted by Shanshu311Losing Is Also An Art clan's motto is "if we lose, it will be special and unique, like art"
Actually, that is [b] not irony.
Irony: "Incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity"
Since the 'Losing is Also an Art' clan is expected to lose, then it can also be said that the leader of the clan would be expected to lose quite often ...[text shortened]... ting is the expected result, and is thus not irony. It's just funny.
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Originally posted by Shanshu311I realize that's a dictionary definition you're quoting, but I think it's sadly lacking. That definition of irony includes things like: winning the lottery; cutting yourself shaving; and beating Ironman at chess.
Actually, that is [b] not irony.
Irony: "Incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity"
Since the 'Losing is Also an Art' clan is expected to lose, then it can also be said that the leader of the clan would be expected to lose quite often ...[text shortened]... ting is the expected result, and is thus not irony. It's just funny.
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For something to be ironic, the victim needs to participate in its own downfall in something it finds important, while simultaneously trying to actively better its situation. For example, in the following definition and example culled from Dictionary.com:
2. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
Ireland, in trying to actively better its situation (economic, political, etc...), ends up emulating England, "the nation she most hated", thereby participating in a downfall of "her" own ethical stance. If you remove any of the following elements:
1) active attempt at betterment;
2) participation in own downfall; or
3) importance of the goal or situation;
all you end up with is a bummer, which, as everyone know, is not as much fun as a hummer.
Originally posted by PBE6Er...come again? How the hell is winning the lottery, cutting oneself shaving or beating Ironman31 at chess ironic?
I realize that's a dictionary definition you're quoting, but I think it's sadly lacking. That definition of irony includes things like: winning the lottery; cutting yourself shaving; and beating Ironman at chess.
Originally posted by ivangriceWhat? That's the whole point of my post. I don't think those things are ironic, which is why I think the definition is too inclusive and should be amended to reflect proper usage.
Er...come again? How the hell is winning the lottery, cutting oneself shaving or beating Ironman31 at chess ironic?
Originally posted by PBE6I'd add to this the following
I realize that's a dictionary definition you're quoting, but I think it's sadly lacking. That definition of irony includes things like: winning the lottery; cutting yourself shaving; and beating Ironman at chess.
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
It's a traffic jam when you're already late
It's a no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
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Originally posted by rhbI like that song too
I'd add to this the following
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
It's a traffic jam when you're already late
It's a no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
🙄
Originally posted by rhb'zachary. A college professor actually described that song ("Ironic" by Alanis Morrisette, fellow Canadian and undeservedly well-received) as a series of "bummers". He should have said "hummers" - CD sales, impressive on their own, would have tripled.
I'd add to this the following
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
It's a traffic jam when you're already late
It's a no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
🙄