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is england still in the world cup?

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
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So the Argies have it in for you too? Is there any nation you'd actually like to referee your games, or do you suspect that everyone despises you?

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Originally posted by stevetodd
Why should anyone be blamed? both teams cannot win! why does the losing team have to be blamed? surely this is not in the true spirit of sport.
He's the one looking for blame in the refs and in the Portuguese team. Also, penalty kicks are part of the game so, yes, Portugal proved they could win and did so by...winning.

What is the true spirit of the sport? The English one? The Italian one? The German one?

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Originally posted by Palynka
He's the one looking for blame in the refs and in the Portuguese team. Also, penalty kicks are part of the game so, yes, Portugal proved they could win and did so by...winning.

What is the true spirit of the sport? The English one? The Italian one? The German one?
What are you talking out? what does it have to do with nationalities?The true spirit of sport is to compete and to enjoy the experience and perhaps learn from it, no matter how good a team is they can't compete unless another team in there to play them, so you should always respect your opponent(s). When you loss a chess match do you blame someone? or perhaps treat it as an opportunity to learn something so you can perform better next time, this is what I am talking about, although from your reaction I wouldn't be suprised if you just didn't get it.

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Originally posted by stevetodd
What are you talking out? what does it have to do with nationalities?The true spirit of sport is to compete and to enjoy the experience, no matter how good a team is they can't compete unless another team in there to play them.
Because different nationalities have been playing different kinds of football for ages. People see the sport differently according to their culture. After all, it's a social phenomenon. Your claim that there is one "true" spirit of sport is false.

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Originally posted by stevetodd
When you loss a chess match do you blame someone?
That's my point, if I'm looking for blame it can only be in me for not being good enough.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Because different nationalities have been playing different kinds of football for ages. People see the sport differently according to their culture. After all, it's a social phenomenon. Your claim that there is one "true" spirit of sport is false.
Forget it I can see I'm wasting my time

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Originally posted by stevetodd
Forget it I can see I'm wasting my time
Of course you are, you are talking about something you don't understand as a social phenomenon and can't find arguments to support your claims.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Of course you are, you are talking about something you don't understand as a social phenomenon and can't find arguments to support your claims.
Look mate I have no interest in exchanging insults with you, all that negative stuff just does nothing for me. If on the other hand you fancy a game of chess just challenge me.
Steve

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Originally posted by stevetodd
Look mate I have no interest in exchanging insults with you, all that negative stuff just does nothing for me. If on the other hand you fancy a game of chess just challenge me.
Steve
Where are the insults? All I said you are talking about something you don't understand.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Of course you are, you are talking about something you don't understand as a social phenomenon and can't find arguments to support your claims.
LMAO! I'm going to print this post out and frame it as "The World's Most Ironic Post 2006"

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Originally posted by Daemon Sin
LMAO! I'm going to print this post out and frame it as "The World's Most Ironic Post 2006"
Go ahead. Any arguments while your at it?

There's an example in the 1st post of the 2nd page in Thread 46609

Edit - Can never get the links right.

Edit - Thanks Daemon Sin for the links tip.

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Originally posted by sjeg
So the Argies have it in for you too? Is there any nation you'd actually like to referee your games, or do you suspect that everyone despises you?
It's a FACT that the ref was an Argie!

Who said anything about the Argies "having it in for" anyone - not me.
It's also a FACT that all the referees have been absolutely lamentable.
If you're too biased to see that, you must be the only person in the world who can't. Except maybe Palynka.

This World Cup, whoever wins, will go down in history as the worst refereed ever.

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
It's a FACT that the ref was an Argie!

Who said anything about the Argies "having it in for" anyone - not me.
It's also a FACT that all the referees have been absolutely lamentable.
if you're too biased to see that you must be the only person in the world who can't. Except maybe Palynka.

This World Cup, whoever wins, will go down in history as the worst refereed ever.
2002 was far far far worse, in my opinion. The way Korea was supported all along was scandalous. The ref in England Portugal is one of the best and he was right there a few feet away from the incident.

I'm being accused of bias by biased people. I'm definitely biased, but that's why I quoted the international press about it and they agree with me that it was a red. It's time to leave it a rest about the refs, it's all I've been saying from even before the match.

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Originally posted by Palynka
He's the one looking for blame in the refs and in the Portuguese team. Also, penalty kicks are part of the game so, yes, Portugal proved they could win and did so by...winning.

What is the true spirit of the sport? The English one? The Italian one? The German one?
I'm not interested in trying to blame anyone. I just hate to see cheating by any team or player, and it's been rife in this tournament so far.
I suppose you'll deny that too. hah!

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I'm not interested in trying to blame anyone. I just hate to see cheating by any team or player, and it's been rife in this tournament so far.
I suppose you'll deny that too. hah!
I don't think what Ronaldo did was cheating. I don't think we cheated against England. We did cheat against Holland but that game we fought fire with fire.

What Figo did in that game is condemnable, but so is what Rooney did. I don't think England should stop playing Rooney just because he did it and the same applies to Figo. Especially since it's the first time I see Figo doing something like that. For example, Joao Pinto was removed from the national team after he punched a ref in the 2002 World Cup. That I can agree with, since it was a truly disgraceful act.