I feel that the recognition that LOTR got was for the trilogy as a whole, as the third film was certainly not superior to the previous two and was, in many eyes, the worst of the three.
Still, as a trilogy, it must have deserved it.
Anyway, I'm boycotting the Oscars (that'll hurt them 😉 for not recognising Anthony Sirkis 🙂
I disagree. The One Ring obviously corrupted the voters into choosing RotK for best picture. Now, don't get me wrong, RotK was a fine movie, but Mystic River was clearly the deserving winner. Mystic River was a powerhouse of a movie. At least Sean Penn and Tim Robbins got best actor and best supporting actor.
Oh come now!
Cold mountain was rubbish apart from the scenery.
Stereotypical characters, too goody good, good shoes to be believable and the end was pathetic to the extreme. There was no character development and the dialogues were about as funny as watching a debate on car wheels in the Dutch parliment.
As for Lord of the rings...
The first film was by far the best of the three and the second one probably the worst.
No. Maybe if you add the extra scenes from the DVD of the second one, specifically the relationship between Boromir, Faramir and their father, it would be better than the third one as well.
When I think of all three films, three words come to mind: whining bloody hobbits.
The end of the second film was completely wasted by that monologue by Sam. Cheap film making to the extreme. Either show something worthwhile or don't show it at all. Don't have characters talking for ages trying to build up emotional drama. It's not the stage and it's not a proper monologue.
The third film was completely non-sensical if you ask me.
How on middle-earth did that glass ball get from inside the tower to get stuck in the mud. Oh...let me guess....buy the DVD and find out. That, my friends, is not a good film.
What about Saruman? The main bad guy from the two previous films?
"Guard Orthanc Treebeard. Don't let him leave."
Okay. Let me run that by you again. You've watched 6 to 7 hours of Lord of the rings and what happens to the bad guy?
"Guard the tower tree. Make sure he doesn't leave."
Imagine Return of the jedi without Darth Vader. All you see is Luke leaving Endor, then returning at the end of the film and saying: "Yup. The bad guy's dead."
Not just annoying, but depressing as well.
More whinging hobbits. I have to admit the climbing of mount doom was well done. As was the filming of the movie.
The special effects were okay. Maybe it was just me, but lots of the fight action (in all three films) seemed choppy and hasted. Better than 'clash of the Titans', that is true, but then again with 40 years or so more of technology, it should be.
No character development though. Was there? Oh, grey turned white, but that isn't just about it. That was it.
I found most of the characters very cardboard like. The only pained looks during the whole film were from the audience every time Legolas made another stupid remark or Gimli did something supposedly funny.
I can imagine ROTK receiving oscars for best photography or special effects. I can imagine Cold mountain winning best photography, but neither were really superior films. Certainly not the best from last year.
I'd give best actor to Depp. Not because Pirates of the Carribbean was all that good, but he did steal the show. He made that film. His acting was by far the best thing about the whole film. That's good. It doesn't happen very often and it deserves to be mentioned.
I was happy that Bill Murrey took a BAFTA for best actor though. He shone like never before in Lost in translation.
Best film? I'd say Lost in translation.
I didn't find it a very good year for films really.
Originally posted by shavixmirYou say a couple of things that are absolute rubbish, you should read the book or, as you pointed out, see the extended DVD's.
As for Lord of the rings...
The first film was by far the best of the three and the second one probably the worst.
No. Maybe if you add the extra scenes from the DVD of the second one, specifically the relationship between Boromir, Farami ...[text shortened]... lation.
I didn't find it a very good year for films really.
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About Sam's monologue, you are giving your opinion, so there's really nothing to argue about, but still, I wanted to say that I liked it, it made me feel good! 😏
The Palantir ("that glass ball"😉), got there when Wormtongue went crazy because Gandalf broke Saruman's staff and said some things the bad guys didn't like, not knowing what it was and, more importantly, not knowing of what value it was, he threw the thing out of the tower at Gandalf, but missed.
With the braking of his staff, all of Sarumans powers had dissapeared, all, but one. That was the power of his speach, he voice was so powerfull, that Treebeard allowed Saruman to leave, he then went to the Shire and destroyed many things, you can read about this in the chapter: 'The Scouring of the Shire', I don't know if it is on the extended DVD, but I doubt it.
I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it. 🙂
Olav
Well Olav,
As luck would have it, I have read the book. Several times.
I do know why Saruman's powers diminished and I do know what the glass ball is called and I do know who threw it out of the tower.
If you read the book you know these things.
That's why the film was rubbish. Because by just watching it...you don't!
😉
Let me address a couple of the POV's expressed. Varq-100% correct about Andy Serkis getting shafted. I think you can put Sean Astin,and Viggo Mortenson in that list also. Punter and Bobbyboomer-sorry,boys,but Angie and Charlize are not going to call you,because they're on the phone with me all the time,along with Halle,Cameron,J-Lo,Jamie Lee,Tyra,Naomi,Lucy(Liu),Uma,Liv,and the list goes on. So many women,so little time. A tough job,keeping them all happy,but someone has to do it! 😀 😉 😛
Originally posted by shavixmirI did enjoy the films but I have to agree with you the books were much better. It's a shame that a lot of young people today don't read the books. They take the easy way out and watch the movies,🙂😀
Well Olav,
As luck would have it, I have read the book. Several times.
I do know why Saruman's powers diminished and I do know what the glass ball is called and I do know who threw it out of the tower.
If you read the book you know these things.
That's why the film was rubbish. Because by just watching it...you don't!
😉
A point I forgot to mention was about someone else who got shafted. I really think Tommy Lee Jones should have gotten at least a nod for Best Actor for The Missing. Now,after he does King Kong next year,does Peter Jackson bow to the inevitable,and do the Hobbit? I hope so,yet he's going to have a problem-he can't recast Ian Holm(too old) as the younger Bilbo.
Originally posted by slimjimJust curios, but who out there who has not read the books, really liked the movie.
I did enjoy the films but I have to agree with you the books were much better. It's a shame that a lot of young people today don't read the books. They take the easy way out and watch the movies,🙂😀
I've read them all and I'm reading them to my kids. I found the movies disjointed, didn't flow well. It was a good movie, not great. I liked the Star Wars movies better.
Originally posted by ColettiI have not read the books.....liked the movies.....always thought I was missing something....you used the term " disjointed "....that is a good description......would go back after the movie was over, watch some scenes again, try to figure out what I missed!!
Just curios, but who out there who has [b]not read the books, really liked the movie.
Originally posted by sundown316Sorry, Andy, not Anthony.
Let me address a couple of the POV's expressed. Varq-100% correct about Andy Serkis getting shafted. I think you can put Sean Astin,and Viggo Mortenson in that list also. Punter and Bobbyboomer-sorry,boys,but Angie and Charlize are not going to call you,because they're on the phone with me all the time,along with Halle,Cameron,J-Lo,Jamie Lee,Tyra,Naomi, ...[text shortened]... many women,so little time. A tough job,keeping them all happy,but someone has to do it! 😀 😉 😛
However, I think the rest of the acting in the film was best described as adequate.
Viggo Mortensen I thought was partuclarly bad, Orlando Bloom even more so.