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Ivory Tower Arcana 4: Twenty Questions 1

Ivory Tower Arcana 4: Twenty Questions 1

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Uncommon Knowledge about a chess board

Can you walk on it? I say Yes.
Does it have cash value? I say No.
Can you control it? I say No.
Do you make something with it? I say Probably.
Is it furry? I say Yes.
Is it involved in movies? I say Yes.
Does it come from something larger? I say Probably.
Is it white? I say Yes.
Is it made of crystals? I say Yes.
Is it a type of mineral? I say Probably.
Can it be dried? I say Probably.
Does it grow on a tree? I say Probably.
Is it considered intelligent? I say Yes.
Is it usually colorful? I say No.
Is it addictive? I say Probably.
Can you pet it? I say Probably.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
[b]Uncommon Knowledge about a chess board

Is it furry? I say Yes.
Can you pet it? I say Probably.[/b]
Obviously that goes together 😀.
I wonder how many people have answered that their object was furry while thinking of chess board. They can't possibly have entered that in the beginning, can they?

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Originally posted by royalchicken
See, you said you had an English word. I was operating under the partial definition of 'English word' given by my question. Someone else pointed out to me that you may be thinking differently, and suggested that question; I no longer claim perfection of strategy since you've been mean to my armchair, but let's continue.

Is there some natural number n such that your word has n characters?
Answer 10: Yes.

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Originally posted by bbarr
Answer 10: Yes.
Are you a perfect 10?

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Originally posted by bbarr
Answer 10: No, and why is your question in quotation marks?
I'm having trouble imagining a "single english word" that is not in the OED and is not made of letters of the roman alphabet. I don't think symbols or numbers are words as such... and "english" seems to rule out foreign words...

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Originally posted by iamatiger
I'm having trouble imagining a "single english word" that is not in the OED and is not made of letters of the roman alphabet. I don't think symbols or numbers are words as such... and "english" seems to rule out foreign words...
I agree. As an objective observer to this competition,
I don't think bbarr is playing within the established
rules, but perhaps he will show me to be mistaken
when his word is finally revealed.

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Originally posted by iamatiger
I'm having trouble imagining a "single english word" that is not in the OED and is not made of letters of the roman alphabet. I don't think symbols or numbers are words as such... and "english" seems to rule out foreign words...
Bbar is teasing.Don't be drawn

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Originally posted by iamatiger
I'm having trouble imagining a "single english word" that is not in the OED and is not made of letters of the roman alphabet. I don't think symbols or numbers are words as such... and "english" seems to rule out foreign words...
The word is indeed English. It does contain letters of the Roman alphabet. It would appear neither in the OED nor in an alphabetical list of words not found in the OED.

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Originally posted by Cribs
I agree. As an objective observer to this competition,
I don't think bbarr is playing within the established
rules, but perhaps he will show me to be mistaken
when his word is finally revealed.
Interesting. Which established rule(s) do you think I'm violating?

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Originally posted by bbarr
Interesting. Which established rule(s) do you think I'm violating?
I don't think you have an English word.

I know of no English words that cannot be put
into an alphabetical list with other English words.

Your answers to the line of questioning about
where your word would lie in a list of English words
not ocurring in OED imply that you word would
not lie anywhere within that list.

Dr. Cribs

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Originally posted by Cribs
I don't think you have an English word.

I know of no English words that cannot be put
into an alphabetical list with other English words.

Your answers to the line of questioning about
where your word would lie in a list of English words
not ocurring in OED imply that you word would
not lie anywhere within that list.

Dr. Cribs
Oh, so you think that every English word must begin with a letter of the alphabet? What a strange restriction!

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Originally posted by bbarr
Oh, so you think that every English word must begin with a letter of the alphabet? What a strange restriction!
Perhaps it is strange, but what is even stranger is that
I can't think of a counterexample. Perhaps I am too
simple-minded for this game, or maybe I just don't
know enough about language or alphabets.

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Originally posted by Cribs
Perhaps it is strange, but what is even stranger is that
I can't think of a counterexample. Perhaps I am too
simple-minded for this game, or maybe I just don't
know enough about language or alphabets.
As per my original complaint that the Chicken's algorithm was a violation of the use/mention distinction (clever though it was), I've employed this distinction, and a common notation for it, in my choice of an item and the single English word which refers to that item. The single English word does not begin with a letter of the alphabet, and hence will not show up in an alphabetical list of all English words not in the OED. My word is listable (I haven't employed any sneaky diagonalization procedures a la Cantor), but not alphabetically listable. Since you can't think of a counterexample to the claim that all English words begin with a letter of the alphabet, I'll supply one:

Aardvarks are cute little animals, but 'aardvarks' is a word with nine letters.

In this example, we've the word 'aardvarks', which refers to animals, and ''aardvarks'', which refers to the word 'aardvarks'. So, if the item I've chosen was itself a word, then the word referring to the chosen word will be the chosen word itself, enclosed in a pair of elipses.

Actually, I'm surprised that you didn't know exactly what I was up to, given that you are the Recursive Pimp, and this little bit of level-jumping is an exercise in recursion.

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Originally posted by bbarr
As per my original complaint that the Chicken's algorithm was a violation of the use/mention distinction (clever though it was), I've employed this distinction, and a common notation for it, in my choice of an item and the single English word which refers to that item. The single English word does not begin with a letter of the alphabet, and hence will not ...[text shortened]... at you are the Recursive Pimp, and this little bit of level-jumping is an exercise in recursion.
bbarr, all compliments to my (not all that clever, though you didn't let me get to the clever bit) algorithm aside, YOU are the one failing to understand the use/mention distinction.

''aardvarks'' is not an English word. It is an English metaword, while 'aardvarks' is a word (subtract one pair of punctuators to get what I really mean).

The above is a joke.

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Originally posted by bbarr
As per my original complaint that the Chicken's algorithm was a violation of the use/mention distinction (clever though it was), I've employed this distinction, and a common notation for it, in my choice of an item and the single English word which refers to that item. The single English word does not begin with a letter of the alphabet, and hence will not ...[text shortened]... at you are the Recursive Pimp, and this little bit of level-jumping is an exercise in recursion.
Let me ask a question. Suppose that we were engaging
in a discourse in the French language, and I said:

Quel mot preferes-tu: 'bonne' ou 'aardvark'?

Is every word in that sentence French?
Are any words in that sentence English?

Does 'aardvark' become a French word just because
it is used in a French sentence?

Can you really classify it as an English word?
Or is it really more of a meta-lingual word?
I believe it is the latter, and thus not a valid
choice for this competition.

Don't doubt tha recursivity,
Dr. Cribs