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  1. Fermata
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    Two visionaries of the computer age. Which do you think contributed more to the industry they each grew up in?
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    @divegeester said
    Two visionaries of the computer age. Which do you think contributed more to the industry they each grew up in?
    Jobs by a mile
  3. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    @divegeester said
    Two visionaries of the computer age. Which do you think contributed more to the industry they each grew up in?
    Gates by 1.6 km.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Gates by 1.6 km.
    I say Gates by 1.7 km. That is on a standard day at sea level with a temp of 70F (21C).
  5. Fermata
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    Interestingly 3 Steve Job style replies, “Because I say so” but with 2 opting for Bill Gates.
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    @divegeester said
    Two visionaries of the computer age. Which do you think contributed more to the industry they each grew up in?
    In this world, whoever dies with the most toys and lives the longest wins.

    Gates wins.
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    @divegeester said
    Two visionaries of the computer age. Which do you think contributed more to the industry they each grew up in?
    It is a very difficult question to answer. We would need criteria about "contribution to industry"

    Both men really did a lot in terms of marketing the computer as a machine for individuals.
    Jobs certainly fed the vanity of his customers.
    Gates certainly tricked a lot for personal gain (via the best of Microsoft).
    Gates made more money, so if we take that as criterion he won.
    Jobs brought a nearly lost company back into making BIG $$$.

    Both were not the geniuses behind the systems. So I count Steve Wosniak higher in terms of technology development than either.
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    @divegeester said
    Two visionaries of the computer age. Which do you think contributed more to the industry they each grew up in?
    The best you can say about Steve Jobs is that at least he wasn't as big a pirate and profiteer as Bill Gates still is. The damage Gates has done to the computer world in general and on-line safety in particular is impossible to overstate.
  9. Fermata
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    The damage Gates has done to the computer world in general and on-line safety in particular is impossible to overstate.
    Would you like to explain how you have become locked in this perception?
  10. Fermata
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    @whodey said
    In this world, whoever dies with the most toys and lives the longest wins.

    Gates wins.
    I wasn’t asking who “won” anything nor for projections across different multiverses.
  11. Fermata
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    I wonder if the world would be a better place without either of their impacts on it.
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    @divegeester said
    I wonder if the world would be a better place without either of their impacts on it.
    Wonder away ... nobody cares.
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    @ponderable said
    It is a very difficult question to answer. We would need criteria about "contribution to industry"
    Indeed, what are the criteria, but also if not them then somebody else?

    We no longer live in a world where one genius makes a
    difference, that was a hundred yeras ago. Or perhaps 400.
  14. Fermata
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Wonder away ... nobody cares.
    And yet here you are grumping away in my thread 🙂
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    @divegeester said
    Would you like to explain how you have become locked in this perception?
    Not if you put it like that, no.

    Bur I do this stuff for a living, and having to deal with the brokenness of Gatesware on a daily basis is exasperating.
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