Originally posted by timtimif it does, then we will move it to debates. There must be something you like about the US? Hey! I live in Texas as well
I'm afraid that this will cause an arguement, so I will choose not to post what it means to me. But, God bless.
🙂Sean
near Corpus Christi.
Originally posted by elvendreamgirlYeah, Tim told me about you.
if it does, then we will move it to debates. There must be something you like about the US? Hey! I live in Texas as well
near Corpus Christi.
I'll try to keep it civil.
I used to feel proud of being an American. Of late, I don't know what to think or what it means to be an American. We should all be honored for being Americans. Then why can you turn on the news and see so many people at rallies speaking against the country which they grew up in.
I see this countries people going against their own country yet they don't realize that they are using one of the great freedoms that were given to us. They take for granted the freedoms that are privileges. They seem to think it is our government's fault for us going to Iraq when it is our own fault. We elect our government to speak and represent us but yet they still argue that it is wrong. These people need to look at themselves before they go accusing our government.
Our great country is not what it once was. This country has gotten weak and it is those people that speak against this country that are from this country that make it weaker everyday. This country used to stick together and stand up to the obstacles that stood before it, now, we go around it.
Once, this country stuck together whether they agreed or not. That was when this country meant something. Now there is a line dividing everyone. The ones that agree over here/ the ones that disagree over here.
By saying this, I don't know how to answer your question. If being an American means speaking against my country and putting down the government that the majority chose to represent them, if it means not supporting our troops even because I think it wrong for us to be somewhere. Then I am not sure if I want to be an American anymore. Yes, I love this country, and I love the people that represent it well, but I don't wish to be associated with those "Americans" that speak bad of it.
Sean
Originally posted by timtimHey timtim... is it sean now?
Yeah, Tim told me about you.
I'll try to keep it civil.
I used to feel proud of being an American. Of late, I don't know what to think or what it means to be an American. We should all be honored for being Americans. Then why can you turn on the news and see so many people at rallies speaking against the country which they grew up in.
I see this c ...[text shortened]... but I don't wish to be associated with those "Americans" that speak bad of it.
Sean
Anyway. Many people are not against America, they are against the government under Bush. Also, Bush did not get the majority of votes. He just won the election.
I gave him a chance, and I support the troops also. I don't much care for what is going on with Bush's America... and I hope it changes.
But to say people should shut up about it if they have a problem is silly in my mind, it is what makes this country great regardless of who's in office, and who doesn't care for them.
I also don't think there are many people speaking against the goverment that don't realize they are using their first amendment rights in doing so. If people have a problem, they should voice it. If we have a problem with who is elected, we should have voted. I know of at least 5 people in their early 30's and late 20's that did not vote last time, but will be voting this time.
America is great, regardless of who's in office. It just gets better or a bit worse depending. Perhaps the problem is not the people protesting, but what they are protesting against?
P-
I am grateful to be born in America. This is a great country that has been a world leader politically, culturally, and philosophically. There is great opportunity and freedom here. I am grateful to my ancestors and those of others who helped to develop this country and its political and social systems. I think the cultural diversity in America makes it one of the strongest and most adaptable countries. The ability to speak out against power also helps make this country strong.
I live in the Bay Area (near San Francisco), which is one of the most culturally diverse places in the world. I believe that there are over 70 languages spoken collectively as the primary spoken languages in the homes of local school children. My children are a mix of Europeans, Asian, and Native American. The next generation will be even more intermixed. I do not identify myself with my ethnicity or my ethnic cultures, but think of myself as a part of this mix – an American.
I didn’t choose to be an American, it is what I was born with. So I don’t see how I can be proud to be one. Neither am I ever embarrassed to be one. I am proud of the good things I do with my life, not the things I am given.
With freedom comes the responsibility to develop yourself and your community. For people in America who choose to do this, I believe this can be one of the best places to be. I believe that the greater your privileges, the greater your responsibility. I am grateful to see many people in my communities working hard to make their communities better for all.
Sean,
I, too, love America greatly. Enough so to commit my life to serving in the military. I've sworn to defend America and it's people to my death. That's an oath I take very seriuosly and have no problem up holding.
Now, there are these Americans we see protesting. They seem to hate their own country. It makes you mad to see it, doesn't it? I don't like many of the things they say, either.
It's human nature to take things for granted that you've always had. Most of these people don't realize how the majority of the world's population lives. They just don't what it is like to live under a dictatorship or in an under-priviledged country.
But, it is them out there protesting, exercising their rights, that ensures we don't live in a country where the people have no voice. Protestors ARE the sound of freedom. I've been to countries where protesting or speaking out against the government is illegal and, trust me, it is much better here with our fredom and protestors. We should embrace protesting and people execising the first amendment, because it reminds us that we are free.
As for what they say. Sometimes they have valid points. Most of the time it's that human nature thing again. When people don't have the lives they wanted, the pay they wanted, interest rates, the house they wanted, etc.., it's human nature to blame the person in charge. Listen close, and you will be amazed at what poeple will blame on whoever is in office. In reality, the President is a normal person that is making the best decisions possible on the information he has. I think many of those protestors would make the same decision if they had the same information the President has. He has information that is not available to the general public has and he is looking at an overall big picture and not just what is best for a single person or group of people.
So, Let them protest and love it. People will always complain and it's great that they can do it publicly. I'd gladly fight and die for their right to do so.
For all you anti-Bush and anti-Americans reading this, keep it up! Please feel free to have your own view and express it however you want. I won't waste my time arguing it with you, but I will continue to dedicate my life to your right to do so.
Happy Birthday to the Red, White and Blue!
Saint Nick
