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Just how profitable is to run RHP ?

Just how profitable is to run RHP ?

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Well at first it looks much but then when you do the math...

There is near half milion of registered users. But barely 20 000 active ones and maybe 5000 or less subscribers. One year membership is 30 $. It is not that much. Of course there are ads for the non-subs... But you do need some employees, some equipment as well...

Hmm... Should I try to run some chess site..? Is it worth it ?

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Well at first it looks much but then when you do the math...

There is near half milion of registered users. But barely 20 000 active ones and maybe 5000 or less subscribers. One year membership is 30 $. It is not that much. Of course there are ads for the non-subs... But you do need some employees, some equipment as well...

Hmm... Should I try to run some chess site..? Is it worth it ?
In the beginning it was all free...then our wonderful admins realized they needed some money for their hard work and you could buy a pawn star for life...then something happened and it became yearly.

But for a small little enterprise thought up by two people I think they have done pretty good monetarily.

There were two other guys in Spartanburg SC who did something sorta like this...I think it's called yahoo...they have tons of money.

I wonder what Russ and Chris could sell this site for?

Any guesses?

Dave

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
In the beginning it was all free...then our wonderful admins realized they needed some money for their hard work and you could buy a pawn star for life...then something happened and it became yearly.

But for a small little enterprise thought up by two people I think they have done pretty good monetarily.

There were two other guys in Spartanburg SC who ...[text shortened]... ons of money.

I wonder what Russ and Chris could sell this site for?

Any guesses?

Dave
I wouldn't like to hazard a figure but I'd imagine advertising pulls in far more than subscriptions. Let's be honest, subscription's a pittance. Well, perhaps not for Americans, but certainly for Europeans.

I hope they earn even more than I do. I'd rather have the site owned by someone who's earned it that by some muppet who probably couldn't sit the right way on a lavatory.

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
In the beginning it was all free...then our wonderful admins realized they needed some money for their hard work and you could buy a pawn star for life...then something happened and it became yearly.

But for a small little enterprise thought up by two people I think they have done pretty good monetarily.

There were two other guys in Spartanburg SC who ...[text shortened]... ons of money.

I wonder what Russ and Chris could sell this site for?

Any guesses?

Dave
I imagine a fair amount. Not sure how many Subs there are, but lets say you have 2000 subs paying 30USD a year...

not bad money I would say...

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
In the beginning it was all free...then our wonderful admins realized they needed some money for their hard work and you could buy a pawn star for life...then something happened and it became yearly.

But for a small little enterprise thought up by two people I think they have done pretty good monetarily.

There were two other guys in Spartanburg SC who ...[text shortened]... ons of money.

I wonder what Russ and Chris could sell this site for?

Any guesses?

Dave
This site is still extremly cheap compared to competition with crappy "silver", "golden" or "premium " memberships (Up to 100 $ annualy) 😲

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Originally posted by Lukerik
I wouldn't like to hazard a figure but I'd imagine advertising pulls in far more than subscriptions. Let's be honest, subscription's a pittance. Well, perhaps not for Americans, but certainly for Europeans.

I hope they earn even more than I do. I'd rather have the site owned by someone who's earned it that by some muppet who probably couldn't sit the right way on a lavatory.
I forgot about the ads.

I wonder what the revenue is from that.

Hey Russ!! Can we see the books???

hehehe

Dave

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
I forgot about the ads.

I wonder what the revenue is from that.

Hey Russ!! Can we see the books???

hehehe

Dave
I think it depends if this is a limited company or a matter of self employment in the UK. Guess it doesn't come under the Freedom of Information Act.

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Originally posted by Lukerik
I think it depends if this is a limited company or a matter of self employment in the UK. Guess it doesn't come under the Freedom of Information Act.
I was joking bro

Dave

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If I remember correctly, Russ is a freelance coder. This site, and another contract or two are his main sources of income, but he is also free to work be contracted to do other projects.

So, it must be at least somewhat profitable.

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
I was joking bro

Dave
Yeah I know Dave, but wouldn't mind seeing the books myself. If just to reassure myself that I DID in fact enter the wrong profession 🙂

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Originally posted by Lukerik
Yeah I know Dave, but wouldn't mind seeing the books myself. If just to reassure myself that I DID in fact enter the wrong profession 🙂
LOL!!!

Good point!

Dave

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
LOL!!!

Good point!

Dave
You agree? Uh-oh! You're with WHO!!

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I would bet that the advertising revenue is nearly equal to the sub revenue.

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Originally posted by nmdavidb
In the beginning it was all free...then our wonderful admins realized they needed some money for their hard work and you could buy a pawn star for life...then something happened and it became yearly.

But for a small little enterprise thought up by two people I think they have done pretty good monetarily.

There were two other guys in Spartanburg SC who ...[text shortened]... ons of money.

I wonder what Russ and Chris could sell this site for?

Any guesses?

Dave
Actually, in the beginning it was free for everyone because Russ and Chris were paying for the cost of the original server out of their own pocket. As membership grew the need to upgrade to bigger and faster servers were putting a serious dent in their personal finances. They were providing this site as a hobby in their spare time, and had regular jobs.

The early members made voluntary contributions to help pay for the hardware upgrades, but the amount was not specified. It was basically up to the individuals to do what they could to help. (Without some voluntary help, the site was not going to be able to survive.) They were given a pawn star icon by their name, were allowed to have more games running at the same time, and could download a free copy of a chess-playing program.

As membership still continued to grow it became necessary to introduce the subscription program in order to continue upgrading the system. Those who were the "original pawnstars" were at that time given a lifetime subscription in recognition of their earlier help.

I guess my point is that the original pawnstars were not aware that we were going to receive a lifetime membership. We were just sending in some money to help keep a decent chess site going. As a matter of fact quite a few of the original pawnstars continue to pay annual subscriptions even though it isn't required of them.

I just wanted to add a little additional historical information, for what it's worth!

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Originally posted by mwmiller
Actually, in the beginning it was free for everyone because Russ and Chris were paying for the cost of the original server out of their own pocket. As membership grew the need to upgrade to bigger and faster servers were putting a serious dent in their personal finances. They were providing this site as a hobby in their spare time, and had regular jobs.
...[text shortened]... em.

I just wanted to add a little additional historical information, for what it's worth!
I was an original pawnstar as well mwmiller...i thought you would remember that one

Dave