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Too bad this is not about a tourney update...I was kicking
around...trying to figure out how to find games on a person when I ran
across the games of three figs.

Check this out...all games are played against another "numbered fig"
and they are all fool's mates....well from the ones I checked.

This person is now 45 - 0 and rated 1542 due to this.

I know there has been mention of people cheating on this site...but
this is blatant! Take a look and see.

If there was ever something done...now is the time to make an
example of somebody. This should stop.

Dave
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kirksey957
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Has this person requested to be in the tournement? If so, you are
the captain and while you may not be able to kick someone off of the
site, you have discretion about not including someone whom you
suspect to be unethical. I trust you and Gil to take the bull by the
balls on this one. Kirk

S
The Diplomat

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No he has not...but I find this kind of actions intolerable.

Did you have a look at what i was talking about kirk?

I would someone else to see what I see.

I mean I have dropped in the standings due to some excellent
play...and it does not feel great but I would not create new nicks and
then play myself to get back up. I don't cheat and find the ones that
do be pretty crappy.

Dave
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kirksey957
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I really didn't know who you were talking about. Typically what has
happened is there is the question followed by an accusation, though
sometimes the accusations fly first. The person responds in anger
and there is a lot of venom in the forums. And all this is so
regrettable because there has been so much commoraderie in the
spirit of competition in the forums around this tournement. There will
always be people on the site who measure their worth by ratings and
number of games won. They completely miss out on the value and
lessons of friendships and fun despite a loss. My sermon for the day.
Kirk

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Amen. Lets indeed focus on the good things and try to ignore the bad
ones. Sin.

S
The Diplomat

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Well put kirk...I probably let my emotions get the best of me last
night.

I guess I should not get upset over things...just hate seeing it.

Dave
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Flash

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Dave,

I understand how you feel. Most on this site play fair and are here
because they enjoy the game. Using a program or boosting your
rating by using multiple nicks is something I hate to see also. I really
don't know why they do it and don't know what can be done to stop it!
It's sad to see! I just appreciate you and all those I play who are
here for the right reasons and have created a friendly community of
chess loving people. You Dave are a true gentlman! Thank you!

I also thank all those here who have been an encouragement to me
and have been kind and patient with me, especially Vaknso,
GENIEJML, MommyoftwoJPs, Schliemann, Warren, ndturner, vacostner,
babe, MartinS, Spooge, and sbeaxzy. There are others who I've
appreciated also.

Thanks!

richjohnson
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I noticed the three figs thing yesterday when I clicked on public games
and saw about half a dozen check mates against five figs in about as
many minutes (all 2 move mates). I have put all '# figs' nicknames
on my 'do not play list'.
Rich

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this one is indeed very clear. Maybe we should have a round of idea-gathering on how we could, as a community, stop such kind of
sabotage. It is a very complicated issue. How can we establish a comittee or a "judge" function, that would not be compromisable itself?

And to take away any comfort feeling we might have: I cannot garantee that this person is not in the torney under a different nick.....

Sin.

mwmiller
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As long as this remains a free membership site with very lax signup
procedures, there probably isn't anything the general membership can
do about these people, except for one thing. BOYCOTT THEM !

The 'fig' episode is not the first occurence of this happening at RHP
and probably will not be the last. Fig is very obviously using multiple
memberships to raise his or her rating by playing the 'fool's mate' to
get the games over in a hurry. I have noticed others who used the
multiple membership scam and made one move and had
his 'opponent' immedietly resign, which was even quicker.

Once they have increased their false rating up to a certain level, they
will find it diffucult to further increase it because of the rating system
formula. (The higher your rating, the fewer points awarded
for 'defeating' someone with a lower rating.)

If they find they can't get anyone here to play a 'real' game with
them, they will eventually have to move along.

just my thoughts...
Marc Miller

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The Diplomat

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Busy little guy too...he is now up to 1649 with a 72 - 0 record and has
new "people" to play...like "hiii" and "colon cancer"

Is there really a point to all of this?

I know alot have said ignore it...but at this rate he will be bypassing
all of us in the top 20 in no time. Of course it will be false.

Takes alot of dedication to log on and log off in so many games
against one's self.

Never thought I would see something like this here.

Dave
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kirksey957
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EArlier you mentioned that you could not guarantee that this person
was not in the tournement. I am wondering if Chris or Russ could
certify people as "clean" as I think they are able to know who signs
on. All they would need to do is say "yes or no" to that question. If
the answer is "no" then you and Gil can make the pairings based on
that. Go ahead and make the pairings without any discussion of who
may have been "not clean." Name the fool and "Let's Get Ready to
Rumble!" Kirk

S
The Diplomat

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I don't think that is really necessary kirk...this person will end up
being #1 before too much longer if this keeps up.

But in a tourney he would have to play a REAL person....and not play
with himself.

I think that any person on this site would beat him if he feels the only
way to rise through the ranks is to do what he is doing.

I find it quite sad actually....and to think I could have been doing this
all along and been up higher than I have been...sheesh...what a
waste of time playing real games.

Dave
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Yes, and apart from being unnecessary, I respect our players too
much to ask them to state that they are not cheaters. Sin.

m

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Gilbert, i dont mind.
i vow to my team members of ROW that i will not bring shame on us
by cheating.
lyn.
yes your right it does look unnecessary.

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