I have a friend at uni (well I have 2 actually), anyway she says one of her assignments discussed rugby beginnings and that there are a hundred different configurations to how it came to be created.
I always believed a boy from rugby school in Britain was the first to play, well thats what we read in our rugby books here. Any other scenarios anyone else knows of? And which one is correct then? Is the rugby school story justone of those stories that everyone (but me!) knows is a fib but continue to believe it because it feels nice - like Santa Claus & Xmas, the Tooth Fairy....etc
Originally posted by jeannie7OMG Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairies are fibs :'(:'(:'(
I have a friend at uni (well I have 2 actually), anyway she says one of her assignments discussed rugby beginnings and that there are a hundred different configurations to how it came to be created.
I always believed a boy from rugby school in Britain was the first to play, well thats what we read in our rugby books here. Any other scenarios anyone else kn ...[text shortened]... t continue to believe it because it feels nice - like Santa Claus & Xmas, the Tooth Fairy....etc
Originally posted by adramforallwell if the boy picks up ball and runs with it rugby story IS true then you don't need to fret little one, Santa will come again this year and your lost tooth will still be needed in fairyland😉
OMG Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairies are fibs :'(:'(:'(
Originally posted by jeannie7At Rugby School for Boys the spoilt little b@st@rds all pick up their footballs and refuse to play unless they're in goal!
I have a friend at uni (well I have 2 actually), anyway she says one of her assignments discussed rugby beginnings and that there are a hundred different configurations to how it came to be created.
I always believed a boy from rugby school in Britain was the first to play, well thats what we read in our rugby books here. Any other scenarios anyone else kn ...[text shortened]... t continue to believe it because it feels nice - like Santa Claus & Xmas, the Tooth Fairy....etc
Originally posted by jeannie7It actually came about in January 1793 in cromer Norfolk when it tis first reported that a boy runneth with a ball that was broken and shaped ovally not round..
I have a friend at uni (well I have 2 actually), anyway she says one of her assignments discussed rugby beginnings and that there are a hundred different configurations to how it came to be created.
I always believed a boy from rugby school in Britain was the first to play, well thats what we read in our rugby books here. Any other scenarios anyone else kn ...[text shortened]... t continue to believe it because it feels nice - like Santa Claus & Xmas, the Tooth Fairy....etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football
"History
The legendary story/myth about the origin of Rugby football — whereby a young man named William Webb Ellis "took the ball in his arms [i.e. caught it] and ran" while playing Rugby School's already distinctive version of football (not to be confused with association football which was codified much later) in 1823 — has little evidence to support it. Pundits have dismissed the story as unlikely since it was first given the School's seal of approval following an official investigation by the Old Rugbeian Society in 1895. However, the story has entered into legend, and the trophy for the Rugby Union World Cup bears the name of "Webb Ellis" in his honour (as does Ellis Park in Johannesburg a major international rugby union stadium), and a plaque at the School commemorates the "achievement".
Various kinds of football have a long tradition in England and football games had probably taken place at Rugby School for two hundred years before three boys published the first set of written rules (in 1845). At the time, a set of rules would be agreed between two teams before a match. Teams which competed against each other regularly would tend to agree to play similar rules.
Rugby football has strong claims to the world's first and oldest "football clubs": the Guy's Hospital Football Club, formed in London in 1843, by old boys from Rugby School. (Although there is still a rugby club attached to Guy's Hospital, so few records of the original club survive that it is impossible to determine if there is any continuity.) Around the anglosphere, a number of other clubs formed to play games based on the Rugby School rules. One of these, Dublin University Football Club, founded in 1854, is probably the world's oldest surviving "football club" in any code.
The Blackheath Rugby Club, in London, allegedly founded in 1858, claim the longest continuous history of any non-university rugby club. However, research suggests that the Club probably started playing rugby football in 1862, whilst Liverpool (Rugby) Football Club were definitely playing rugby football from 1858 onwards. The Blackheath club also features in the history of association football (soccer): as Blackheath Football Club, it became a founder member of the Football Association (FA) in 1863. However, Blackheath withdrew from the FA just over a month after the initial meeting, when it became clear that the FA would not agree to rules which allowed running with the ball in hand (a fundamental part of the rugby game). Other rugby clubs followed this lead and did not join the FA.
By 1870 about 75 clubs, including Blackheath, played variations of the Rugby School game in Britain. Clubs playing varieties of the Rugby School game also existed in Ireland, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. However, they had no generally accepted set of rules: the clubs continued to agree rules before the start of each game. On January 26, 1871, 22 clubs founded the Rugby Football Union (RFU), leading to the standardisation of the rules for all rugby clubs in England. Soon most countries with a sizeable rugby community had formed their own national unions.
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Originally posted by zeeblebot#3...only 97 to go!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football
"History
The legendary story/myth about the origin of Rugby football — whereby a young man named William Webb Ellis "took the ball in his arms [i.e. caught it] and ran" while playing Rugby School's already distinctive version of football (not to be confused with association football which was codified m ...[text shortened]... d. Soon most countries with a sizeable rugby community had formed their own national unions.
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version #4
It all began in bonny Scoootland when Rob Roy had some of his pals up for din dins. They, being Jocks, drank a few gallons of Whisky while waiting for the food. By the time the haggis arrived they were too far gone to want to eat it, so they kicked it around in the yard and fought over it instead. It was meant to be a game of footie but naturally it got out of hand. They enjoyed the brawling so much it became a regular thing every weekend. And they had a big rug laid out at each end for scoring tries on[touchdowns] Hence at the start they would call out "stick the rugs by each end, jimmy" which became "rugs by, jimmy" and then "rugsby" >>> rugby.
This is what my uncle Hamish told me.....so I know it's true.
Originally posted by Dr Strangeloveyour uncle wasn't that same chap who wrote the 'historically accurate' script for Braveheart was he, about how the rebellious Scotsman got the English Queen up the duff?
version #4
It all began in bonny Scoootland when Rob Roy had some of his pals up for din dins. They, being Jocks, drank a few gallons of Whisky while waiting for the food. By the time the haggis arrived they were too far gone to want to eat it, so they kicked it around in the yard and fought over it instead. It was meant to be a game of footie but ...[text shortened]... and then "rugsby" >>> rugby.
This is what my uncle Hamish told me.....so I know it's true.
Your rugby story, sorry your uncles story, is brilliant! 😉
#5 French origins!
L'histoire et l'origine du Rugby
LA LEGENDE
On raconte que lors d'un beau jour de 1823, dans le collège de la petite ville de Rugby, William Webb Ellis, au cours d'une partie de football, prit le ballon dans les mains et alla l'aplatir dans les buts adverses. C'est alors que naquit le rugby, un sport du même nom de la petite ville où se déroule cette légende, celle-ci se trouve au sud de Leinster, en Angleterre.
Voici le grand William Webb Ellis. Celui qui, selon la légende, inventa le rugby. Mais ce sport était déjà pratiqué bien avant le geste fous de cet adolescent de 16 ans (bien sur sur cette gravure il est plus âgé 😉 ), au cours d'une partie de football...
AVANT WEBB ELLIS...
Durant l'antiquité, les Romains jouaient à l'haspartum, les Grecs pratiquaient l'épiskiros. Dans l'épiskiros il s'agissait de ramener le ballon dans son propre camps, l'objectif inverse était visé dans le jeux romain. L'haspartum d'ailleurs fut à l'origine de nombreux jeux de balle joués durant le moyen âge en Europe, et bien plus tard, du football et du rugby.
Selon des découvertes archéologiques récentes, un jeu se jouant sur un terrain rectangulaire et avec un ballon ovale était déjà pratiqué chez les romains, "L'ovalum" ,on y jouait lors des commémorations du dieu Brennus, peu avant la chute de l'empire Romain.
Vers le 5 et 6ème siècle après JC, en Mongolie, une forme de rugby à cheval était pratiqué, sauf que le ballon était une tête coupé ( !! ) et que celui qui la laissait s'échapper, devenait ballon à son tour... Ce jeu à cheval donna très certainement la soule en Europe (l'ancêtre le plus probable du rugby) et le bouskachi, jeu encore pratiqué en Iran, au Pakistan, en Afghanistan et bien sur nettement moins cruel que son ancêtre mongol.
Venons en à la soule, ancêtre du football et du rugby, pratiqué durant le moyen age en France, en Angleterre. Le principe est simple, deux équipes de village s'affrontent, le but est de ramener la balle (une vessie de porc remplit de pierre) dans son village, plus précisément à la chapelle ou dans une cheminé d'une des maisons, tous les coups sont permis. Se jouant sur un terrain très vaste et accidenté (entre deux villages parfois distants de plusieurs kilomètres), la soule permettait à deux patelins rivaux de bien se "foutre sur la gueule" faisant un grand nombre de blessés et parfois de mort.
Gravure représentant un début de partie de soule en Bretagne.
Un dérivé de la soule joué au pied était pratiqué dans les Iles Britanniques, celui- ci devint plus tard le football. C'est justement au cours d'une partie de football que Webb Ellis inventa, selon la coutume, le rugby.
DE 1823 A NOS JOURS.
Très vite, un nouveau sport apparut, appelé le "football-rugby". En 1846 les premières règles furent écrites dans la ville de Rugby, par un étudiant Thomas Hughes. Le football-rugby se jouait à 15, comme aujourd'hui, seul les noms de postes ont changés, à cette époque, les avants étaient appelé "les chiens", les demis, "les renards", les trois quart "les chevaux". En 1861 le Rugby Football Union (RFU) fut fondé, après une division avec le football traditionnel qui deviendra le célèbre jeux au pied que l'on connaît aujourd'hui, celle-ci fixa les règles de base du rugby définitivement, enfin, presque, il faudra attendre 1877 pour avoir un jeux à 15 en non pas 20. Le 27 mars 1871 eu lieu le premier match international de rugby entre l'Ecosse et l'Angleterre. En 1884 eu lieu un tournoi réunissant les quatre nations britanniques, (l'Irlande, le pays de Galle, l'Ecosse, l'Angleterre) qui deviendra ensuite le tournoi des 4 nations. En 1884, le mini rugby apparaît, il deviendra alors le sport qui est aujourd'hui appelé rugby à VII. En 1887 l'international rugby board (IRB) est crée. C'est alors que le rugby rencontre un succès grandissant dans les classes ouvrières, celle-ci voulurent faire sécession avec les "chemises blanches" (intellectuels souvent riches pratiquant le rugby), en août 1895, la scission est définitive, la Northern Union est créée favorisant un rugby populaire, professionnel se jouant à 13 et non plus à 15. Pour la RFU, le rugby est un divertissement pour jeunes intellectuels gentlemen.
Le rugby s'étend avec succès dans l'hémisphère sud notamment en Nouvelle Zélande, où les Maoris accueillent avec grand plaisir ce jeux ressemblant au Ki-o-Rahi un sport typique maoris très pratiqué. Celui-ci aurait pu influencer sur le rugby actuel d'ailleurs selon certains historiens. En Australie, le rugby se développe fortement aussi, mais c'est le rugby à XIII qui devient le plus populaire en raison d'une forte présence d'ouvriers, d'exilés, et celle-ci soutiendra plus un rugby populaire et professionnel qu'un rugby de loisir. En Afrique du sud on y pratique également le rugby à un niveau très élevé, mais cette nation restera écarté de la scène international rugbystique en raison de l'apartheid.
En 1900, le rugby devient sport olympique, la France d'ailleurs remportera la médaille d'or de rugby lors de cette première édition du rugby au JO. Malheureusement à cause du grand nombre d'inégalité entre les nations, le rugby est retiré des JO en 1924, les USA remporteront la médaille d'or. On songe à intégrer le rugby à VII au JO de 2012...
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