1. SubscriberSuzianne
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    @divegeester said
    What do you think of Craig’s recent condemnation of there being a female Bond ? There is a lot of chat about in on social media today.
    Didn't see it. But Craig is a Brit, so I'm not all that surprised. I think American actors would be more amenable to a female Bond. Myself, I'd rather see a black Bond before a female Bond. I thought Idris Elba was a good pick for a black Bond.

    I'm away now from most social media, internet yak-yak sites. The only internet I have where I am right now is my phone, so I'm self-limited, which I'm considering a good thing.
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    @suzianne said
    I thought Idris Elba was a good pick for a black Bond.
    Indeed. Presence and a quality actor.
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    @divegeester said
    What do you think of Craig’s recent condemnation of there being a female Bond ? There is a lot of chat about in on social media today.

    Edit: for ease of access
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/daniel-craig-james-bond-woman-b1923858.html
    I checked out your link (thanks for that, btw), and I think he's right. Women would be better served by having their own strong characters, rather than playing a traditionally male character. I get his point, shared as it is by Barbara Broccoli. There have been many spy/action-oriented movies with strong women leads in the past few years. Forcing a woman into the Bond role for the pure controversy doesn't do the genre any justice.
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    @suzianne said
    I checked out your link (thanks for that, btw), and I think he's right. Women would be better served by having their own strong characters, rather than playing a traditionally male character. I get his point, shared as it is by Barbara Broccoli. There have been many spy/action-oriented movies with strong women leads in the past few years. Forcing a woman into the Bond role for the pure controversy doesn't do the genre any justice.
    It’s actually a sleight on women I think. Presuming that sexual equality should be achieved by getting a woman to portray an ostensibly male character undermines the very principle of equality through the inference that a woman needs to do that. It’s convoluted virtue-signalling. Women are far better represented by them playing strong women characters surely.
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    @suzianne said
    I checked out your link (thanks for that, btw), and I think he's right. Women would be better served by having their own strong characters, rather than playing a traditionally male character. I get his point, shared as it is by Barbara Broccoli. There have been many spy/action-oriented movies with strong women leads in the past few years. Forcing a woman into the Bond role for the pure controversy doesn't do the genre any justice.
    Having a female Dr Who worked well, due to the premise of that series (regeneration) but Bond should always be played by a male actor, as was intended by the author. A female Bond would indeed be a gimmick.
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    @divegeester said
    It’s actually a sleight on women I think. Presuming that sexual equality should be achieved by getting a woman to portray an ostensibly male character undermines the very principle of equality through the inference that a woman needs to do that. It’s convoluted virtue-signalling. Women are far better represented by them playing strong women characters surely.
    Eh, some people like to stir the pot. Calling it virtue-signaling seems a bit overboard, but yeah, doing it for the controversy seems counter-productive. Let women choose how they wish to be represented.

    If it were race instead of gender, it would be called cultural appropriation. We don't need to foster gender appropriation. Most women don't want to be men, after all. Let's not limit ourselves.
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    @suzianne said
    Eh, some people like to stir the pot. Calling it virtue-signaling seems a bit overboard, but yeah, doing it for the controversy seems counter-productive. Let women choose how they wish to be represented.
    Women should definitely choose how they want to be represented, for sure. The virtue signalling points to those people, those men, who feel that it’s right on to present a case for a women to play Bond, when to the rest of us the suggestion appears a bit silly and contrived.
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    Chuck Norris would pound any Bond into a mush.
    So your argument is invalid.
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    Can we have a Bond more like Jason Bourne who doesn't go around shagging and wandering into a King casino🤷‍♂️

    Or are THEY going down the Rainbow Transgender 'ROOT'?

    Place you bet's...🚬
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    @chris-guffogg said
    Can we have a Bond more like Jason Bourne who doesn't go around shagging and wandering into a King casino🤷‍♂️

    Or are THEY going down the Rainbow Transgender 'ROOT'?

    Place you bet's...🚬
    A Bond without shagging is like Star Trek with no space travel.
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    @bigdogg said
    A Bond without shagging is like Star Trek with no space travel.
    That could work. The Vulcans could be musicians and set the whole thing in a jazz club. A Romulan could just be a type of drink that they serve. It would be a lot more mellow.
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    @relentless-red said
    That could work. The Vulcans could be musicians and set the whole thing in a jazz club. A Romulan could just be a type of drink that they serve. It would be a lot more mellow.
    Beam me up Scott Joplin.
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    @relentless-red said
    That could work. The Vulcans could be musicians and set the whole thing in a jazz club. A Romulan could just be a type of drink that they serve. It would be a lot more mellow.
    Heh, what kind of music do Vulcans play? Math rock?
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    @bigdogg said
    Heh, what kind of music do Vulcans play? Math rock?
    Spock rock.
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    @bigdogg said
    Heh, what kind of music do Vulcans play? Math rock?
    Music that transports you to a different dimension without any need to Q.
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