Originally posted by FreakyKBHYou're dodging the question. Is the "exceedingly small number of people" you claim it needs to keep your flat earth theory secret dozens of people? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of millions? How many people do you think "know" the earth is flat?
The number required which is equivalent to the ignorance today.
Originally posted by FMFI'll answer yours when you answer mine.
You're dodging the question. Is the "exceedingly small number of people" you claim it needs to keep your flat earth theory secret dozens of people? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of millions? How many people do you think "know" the earth is flat?
How many people does it require to perpetrate the conspiracy of ethnic profiling?
Originally posted by FreakyKBHYou've missed my point. If a problem like ethnic bias in law enforcement and punishment is so obviously systemic, so pervasive, and so deeply ingrained, it's neither here nor there how extensive or localized the various component conspiracies are. The result is the same.
I'll answer yours when you answer mine.
How many people does it require to perpetrate the conspiracy of ethnic profiling?
Originally posted by FMFDefine "obvious," will you?
You've missed my point. If a problem like ethnic bias in law enforcement and punishment is so obviously systemic, so pervasive, and so deeply ingrained, it's neither here nor there how extensive or localized the various component conspiracies are. The result is the same.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHNo, I'm not going to go into it in detail. I am of the view that there is a systemic problem with crime and punishment on this issue in the U.S. and in many other countries including the one where I live.
Define "obvious," will you?
There is plenty of debate on it out there. You must be aware of it and of the evidence that is presented on both sides of it. People disagree about it - that I acknowledge. But I am not going to debate it with you. If you disagree with my view that it's obvious in this case, that's fine. I am aware of the arguments.
What I am sure we can agree on, though, is that if a problem like this is systemic and deeply ingrained, then it scarcely matters to what extent conspiracies are involved.
Originally posted by FMFThat is an incredible amount of words spent on the singular intention of using the word "systemic" in a sentence.
No, I'm not going to go into it in detail. I am of the view that there is a systemic problem with crime and punishment on this issue in the U.S. and in many other countries including the one where I live.
There is plenty of debate on it out there. You must be aware of it and of the evidence that is presented on both sides of it. People disagree about it - th ...[text shortened]... ystemic and deeply ingrained, then it scarcely matters to what extent conspiracies are involved.
Bravo.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI could give you links to arguments on either side of the long standing debate about this issue in the U.S. and tell you which side of the debate I see myself on, but I'm not even going to do that. 😉
That is an incredible amount of words spent on the singular intention of using the word "systemic" in a sentence.
Bravo.
Originally posted by FMFI find the assertion "it's about ethnicity and/or fear" somewhat specious and also naïve.
I could give you links to arguments on either side of the long standing debate about this issue in the U.S. and tell you which side of the debate I see myself on, but I'm not even going to do that. 😉
For my perspective (which is informed with multiple dealings with the courts on both personal and professional fronts over the last three decades), the conversation begins and ends with the purpose of the court.
The assumption that puts the court in the position of administer of justice is the naïve position.
In nearly all situations, the court is not concerned with justice, even as a byproduct.
This is a money generating proposition from the lowest to the highest court, and without exception.
Even at the Supreme Court level where the decisions typically smell miles removed from direct contact with the hoi pollio, the theatre serves to offer legitimacy to both itself and the money makers, the lower courts.
Black, in the mind of the court (as well as all other ethnicities and skin colors with equally impoverished members), merely appears as opportunity.
Those in robes thumb their nose at the rows and rows of below-average-joes.
They pick on folks who can't fight back.