Originally posted by !~TONY~!quick update - I got to the gym tonight & guess what we were doing for the first time (well, first time for me)... wrestling!
That seems to me to be a great combination. Thai Boxers dominate any other striker on their feet and if you add a good sprawl to that to stop grapplers and submission fighters then you are set. Vanderlei Silva is a good example. He is a brutal Thai boxer and has very good takedown defense. His knees are insaley powerful and he leaves welts with the low knee kicks he lands! 😵
I got my ass kicked - nothing knew there though. Some of the guys were much lighter than me & still panning me. There's definatly an art there that I need to learn. Any suggstions for learning floor fighting basics quickly?
Originally posted by belgianfreakMy only advise for learning anything quickly would be to pay attention to the basic techniques your taught, learn those until you can pull them off fairly fluidly and then look into how you can adapt them for slightly different situations. Maybe see about practising outside of the class, maybe with a couple of friends from the class, without the so much of the formaility. That way you can practise things you would normally want to try infront of the master (incase you end up dropping yourself on your head🙂🙂). Also, in a less formal atmosphere its more about technique not a physical work out. At least it has always been that way for me🙂.
Any suggstions for learning floor fighting basics quickly?
I practice a fairly new form called Kuk Sool Won (www.kuksoolwon.com) I've only been practicing for about a year but I have also practiced other forms more unofficially with friends for a while, one of these friends has a black belt in karate and can kick very well (he's been practicing for about 10 years). Yet, when sparring we're normally fairly evenly matched because he now knows that if he pulls any really big kick, chances are, I'll avoid it and get in a counter while he's recovering
Jimmy
P.S. I feel that although most people seem to be slating 'Kata' or Forms I'd like to say that most of these are fairly fundamental to the education of most arts. They increase the strength and flexibility of the human body and if performed in repetition then they also increase your endurance.
Freak,
This is a bit complicated but what you may want to do is find a Jiu-Jitsu site to learn the basics. Bottom line is don't give someone your back as they can "ground and pound" you or even rear naked choke you. The key is a position called the guard. If you get taken down stay on your back and wrap both your legs around the guys waist. Then pull him in take grabbing his hands to stop strikes and keep him REAL CLOSE. He has no leverage to strike if he's close. They are a variety of submissions from the guard once you learn them. Try these for a little groundwork and submissions:
http://members.aol.com/nyjiujitsu/
http://www.jiu-jitsu.net/techniques/valetudo/
http://bjj.org/techniques/
Some of these involve gi's but most can be done without in Vale Tudo style. These wrestlers won't know what to do to "pass your guard". Remember that you want to mount or back mount a guy given your Thai style being that your guys can probably drop bombs for punches. The guard is important to know for striking styles because it's a good position for defense and keeps the good grapplers at bay for awhile, although ultimately you will probably want to stand back up again! This is alot to handle so just pick bits and pieces! 😀
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They are called Hakama, and are not as nearly as funny as those lycra pants that you gracie boys like to wear....😉
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Originally posted by !~TONY~!Aikido like most MA's have a lot of different styles raging through soft to hard. I would say in most cases (but not all) the students Aikido start off as a harder/external style (young man Aikido) & as they refine the techniques they get to a softer/internal style (old man aikido). Two people can do the same technique one may feel like your arm is being pulled out of its socket & you end up flat on your back, looking up from the mat, while the other feels so soft that you don't realise it has finished until your end up flat on your back looking up from the mat. Note both ways are equally valid. Generally we try to go with the flow of the attack (we call it blending), using the energy of the attack, by leading it & then redirecting it through circular/spiral types of movement to destroy the attackers posture & balance.
[b]Although some of the Aikido throws are neat! 😀
The ethical side of Aikido is all about being able to defend yourself but without causing harm to your attacker although most people will agree that in some situations it may not always be possible. I can't speak for everybody but to be good enough to do this is what I'm aiming for.
Some of the pinning techiques can be very painful when being applied, but they are done with a large dose of self control so that no permanent injury occurs.
A few of the techniques are common to most MA's (kote gashi which is a outward wrist twist commonly used as a knife defense can be found in most other ma's) The basic configration of the arm/body is nearly always the same just the start, application & finish is what normally differs.
Lastly I have never met anybody on or off the mat who claimed to have a magical shield, but Aikido (along with most MA's) does seem to increase your awareness of what is going on around.
🙂
Originally posted by ChessNutI've seen it once, one of the most beautiful movies I ever saw...
Anybody watch 'Enter the Dragon' the other night? Bruce Lee is the bomb. 😀
Have you seen 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' ever? Beautiful as well...but there is also a great story of the Chinese culture...great movie!
Olav
The only thing that really kinda annoys me is the fact that the fight scenes go alittle too far. I'm all for some crazy things during fights scenes but I think CTHD goes a bit far. I like them, it just loses something when you know this can never happen. I also saw Iron Monkey, which has the same style fight scenes, although I liked that movie very much! 😀
Originally posted by !~TONY~!What do you think of the fighting scenes in the Matrix and Reloaded? They're pretty impossible as well...
The only thing that really kinda annoys me is the fact that the fight scenes go alittle too far. I'm all for some crazy things during fights scenes but I think CTHD goes a bit far. I like them, it just loses something when you know this can never happen. I also saw Iron Monkey, which has the same style fight scenes, although I liked that movie very much! 😀
Olav
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Most Jet Li's are great indeed! We should play sometime!
I think those are nifty as well but they still annoy me. I am used to watching UFC and Pride FC's when the fighting is real and still exciting. 😀 Some Jet Li movies go a little overboard too but his normally stay under control!
Olav