Originally posted by Moldy CrowA wall sounds more feasable then. They are doing it in holland,
It's more than 20 feet under sea level in some places . N.O. has never had a direct hit from a major hurricane . The levies and pumps were the best the tech at the time could do . The levies were built in 65 , and all that was possible at the time was designing to take a cat. 3 hurricane . Plus , the levies must be high enough ALL of the way around the c ...[text shortened]... ise the land but the foundations of all of the buildings and the structures themselves as well .
so why not here?
I read about a development of this self rising wall, a deep ditch
with this floatie under a loose rubber skin. If water tries to overflow,
the water causes the float to rise and take the rubber with it making
an instant wall. when the water recedes, the wall sinks back on its
own. Sounds like thats the kind of thing they need in NO.
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Originally posted by sonhouseI think it's already been said that New Orleans did have various systems in place. What you have take into account is that this was one of the biggest hurricanes ever recorded. Could the floating wall keep floating up and up no matter what height was required? It's doubtful.
A wall sounds more feasable then. They are doing it in holland,
so why not here?
I read about a development of this self rising wall, a deep ditch
with this floatie under a loose rubber skin. If water tries to overflow,
the water causes the float to rise and take the rubber with it making
an instant wall. when the water recedes, the wall sinks back on its
own. Sounds like thats the kind of thing they need in NO.
Also bear in mind that Holland is most unlikely to ever be hit by a tropical storm. Although if the greenhouse effect really gets going, you never know...
Originally posted by orfeoAgreed . I think it's also a question of whether such nifty little tricks such as floating walls etc would be functional after being battered by 140mph winds for 6 hours and the debris driven by the storm surge.
I think it's already been said that New Orleans did have various systems in place. What you have take into account is that this was one of the biggest hurricanes ever recorded. Could the floating wall keep floating up and up no matter what height was required? It's doubtful.
Also bear in mind that Holland is most unlikely to ever be hit by a tropical storm. Although if the greenhouse effect really gets going, you never know...
I'm sure that the Army Corp of Engineers is aware of these options and would have implimented them if applicable to New Orleans . It's very easy to have drawing board solutions to these problems , quite another to make them work .
Originally posted by sonhouseYa know the old saying" Too soon old, too late smart".
Just out of curiosity, I hear about this 6 foot lower than sealevel
and such. After a couple of hundred years of hurricanes in the
area, why haven't they just raised the city about 10 feet up?
It seems in a hundred years you could have easily done that.
Now we find not the hurricane but a busted dike on a viaduct is
doing them in. The hurricane probably busted the canal but
why does this kind of thing only get fixed after the fact?
Originally posted by runninfiendYes, I agree, one cant stoop lower than a looter....especially during a natural disaster. I can see in a blackout, buy not a natural disaster. All looters should be shot on sight anyway, not to kill them, but just in the lower groin area. Yes, disable their sex life.
I'm not sure i'd have much of a problem with the military using at least rubber bullets on these looters. The lowest common denominator of society.