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    16 May '16 15:22
    Originally posted by FMF
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    16 May '16 15:52
    Originally posted by Kegge
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    16 May '16 18:16
    Originally posted by FMF
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  4. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    16 May '16 19:04
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs" applies to the human race.
    And the human race needs God.. yes or no?
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    16 May '16 19:11
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    Even though animal psychology is a difficult thin g I would say for most species up to 3 for some higher 😉
    Some sort of connection can be made between Maslow's HON and the Turing test. Perhaps deciding where an entity is on the HON is akin to deciding how it should be treated.
  6. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    17 May '16 03:10
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)
    Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs "By Saul McLeod published 2007, updated 2014"


    "Changes to the original five-stage model are highlighted and include a seven-stage model and a eight-stage model, both developed during the 1960's and 1970s.

    1. Biological and Physiological needs - air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep, etc.

    2. Safety ...[text shortened]... be continued)

    http://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html#needs7
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    Number 9?
    "Maslow (1968): Some of the characteristics of self-actualized people

    Although we are all, theoretically, capable of self-actualizing, most of us will not do so, or only to a limited degree. Maslow (1970) estimated that only two percent of people will reach the state of self actualization. He was particularly interested in the characteristics of people whom he considered to have achieved their potential as persons.

    By studying 18 people he considered to be self-actualized (including Abraham Lincoln and Albert Einstein) Maslow (1970) identified 15 characteristics of a self-actualized person.

    Characteristics of self-actualizers:

    1. They perceive reality efficiently and can tolerate uncertainty;
    2. Accept themselves and others for what they are;
    3. Spontaneous in thought and action;
    4. Problem-centered (not self-centered);
    5. Unusual sense of humor;

    6. Able to look at life objectively;
    7. Highly creative;
    8. Resistant to enculturation, but not purposely unconventional;
    9. Concerned for the welfare of humanity;
    10. Capable of deep appreciation of basic life-experience;

    11. Establish deep satisfying interpersonal relationships with a few people;
    12. Peak experiences;
    13. Need for privacy;
    14. Democratic attitudes;
    15. Strong moral/ethical standards." (2: to be continued)

    http://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html#needs7
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    Thoughts?
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    17 May '16 03:13
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    And the human race needs God.. yes or no?
    “There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way'" -C.S. Lewis. / 'There's a hole in the heart of man in the shape of God. If I believe in the Risen Christ and it's just an artful falsehood, there is nothing to lose. If true, then I have everything to gain.' -Pascal (1623-1662) Summary: His Grace/our gratitude. Sans Dieu Rien.....
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    17 May '16 03:15
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Thoughts?
    What are your thoughts on this?
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    17 May '16 12:29
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

    "Changes to the original five-stage model are highlighted and include a seven-stage model and a eight-stage model, both developed during the 1960's and 1970s.

    1. Biological and Physiological needs - air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep, etc.

    2. Safety needs - protection from elements, security, order, ...[text shortened]... ontinued)

    http://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html#needs7
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    Number 9?[/b]
    That's okay. Maslow also said, "I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." This describes his mediocre psychology to a T.
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    17 May '16 14:59
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    “There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way'" -C.S. Lewis. / 'There's a hole in the heart of man in the shape of God. If I believe in the Risen Christ and it's just an artful falsehood, there is nothing to lose. If true, then I have everything to gain.' -Pascal (1623-1662) Summary: His Grace/our gratitude. Sans Dieu Rien.....
    Thank you (and Reader's Digest) for the bromides. 😴
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    17 May '16 15:22
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    That's okay. Maslow also said, "I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." This describes his mediocre psychology to a T.
    Models tend to simplify reality so we can understand reality better. Some models are more helpful than others. It is quite astonishing to me how far one can get with the "simple" two-dimensional model on behaviour applied by Riemann.
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    17 May '16 17:53
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    Models tend to simplify reality so we can understand reality better. Some models are more helpful than others. It is quite astonishing to me how far one can get with the "simple" two-dimensional model on behaviour applied by Riemann.
    The same Riemann of non-Euclidean geometry?
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    17 May '16 18:10
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Thank you (and Reader's Digest) for the bromides. 😴
    Rather cynical reply.....
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    17 May '16 18:16
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Rather cynical reply.....
    Then give me a straight answer instead of a couple of trite copy/pastes.
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    17 May '16 19:511 edit
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    The same Riemann of non-Euclidean geometry?
    No, not Bernhard Riemann. Ponderable, no doubt, is speaking of Fritz Riemann. The psychologist, not the chess master.
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