Originally posted by Silver SlayerNo, I won't go out searching for information to remember. When I need to remember, I'll hang it on things in my familiar environment. Doubt it will work with a head as thick as mine, but it's worth the try. 🙂
You will have to find alot of info to remember then!
Originally posted by Bosse de NageApparently, according to Matteo, we should not use a familiar environment. It's only through the struggle of creating and expanding fictive palaces that we can really strengthen and improve our memory.
"The Memory Palace of Matteo Ricci" (Jonathan Spence) is a great book about the exploits of a Jesuit missionary and memory palace expert in 16th-century China.
So, I will start working on my own fictive palace.
Also, this link might be interesting to windows users:
http://www.mindpalace.com/
Although, I think that this would also be a bad idea then, since you're using a program to help you remember you aren't really using your mind all that much. I think.
Originally posted by stockenHave you read Dune? Frank Herbert's Mentats presumably used similar mnemonic techniques, computers having been wiped in the Butlerian Jihad...
Although, I think that this would also be a bad idea then, since you're using a program to help you remember you aren't really using your mind all that much. I think.
I don't think the old method will work with computers, no. Information taken from a screen tends not to stick with me.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageNo I haven't read Dune. Seems to me that Butlerian Jihad is another man in war with ai-machines story. Is there anything else to it, making it worth the read? Or should I just buy a copy and see for myself? 🙂
Have you read Dune? Frank Herbert's Mentats presumably used similar mnemonic techniques, computers having been wiped in the Butlerian Jihad...
I don't think the old method will work with computers, no. Information taken from a screen tends not to stick with me.
The problem with building a memory palace, seem to be my flimsy mind. One minute I'm pretty sure I'll have a room at the end of the corridor, and the next, I want to hang a painting of Zarathustra there (thus blocking the entrence to the next room). If I can't make up my mind, the whole thing will fail because the building will collapse in on itself and I will have to start a rescue operation (because, obvisously I want other people in there too, and they will be burried underneath the remains of the palace).
So sad.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageThe Dune series is especially noteworthy for the amalgamation of religious intention between worlds etc. In the far future you get Zen-sufis for example. It was also written back in 1965 so the whole AI thing was very new and it's only a minor part of the story as a whole. In actual fact it's the antithesis of the AI and robot situation which is important, a world in which there are no machines. It is a story about religion and spirituality, struggle and prophecy, but it is nether cliched nor simple. If you have the strength to read all 6 books, you will find yoursel futterly rewarded, despite an apparent lag in quality of the 4th and 5th books, it is revealed that there is a reason for this if you can percevere to the 6th, the sotry comes full circle and the previous 2 make sense.
Perhaps a memory cave would be a good place to start. You could have a system of tunnels...
As for Dune, the Butlerian Jihad is just part of the background. It's classic science fiction--well worth reading.
It is a story which covers 10s of 1000s of years and entire galaxies, civilizations and religious rises and falls. I love it to pieces and am happy to talk for hours about any aspect of the series.
Originally posted by StarrmanPerhaps we can have a thread about it once I start reading, then? Because you certainly awoke my curiosity. 🙂
The Dune series is especially noteworthy for the amalgamation of religious intention between worlds etc. In the far future you get Zen-sufis for example. It was also written back in 1965 so the whole AI thing was very new and it's only a minor part of the story as a whole. In actual fact it's the antithesis of the AI and robot situation which is important ...[text shortened]... and falls. I love it to pieces and am happy to talk for hours about any aspect of the series.