@very-rustysaid Think he could have beaten Tyson?.... 😉
-VR
I'm not some people
I don't know who the world champ was at that time
but no
stallone would not have lasted one round
at five eight 180 pounds stallone is a pipsqueak
@divegeestersaid Yes probably in their prime, but Ali would have taken Tyson in their relative later years.
I would disagree Ali would have beat him when they were both in their Prime and later. I watched pretty well all of both their fights at the beginning and during their boxing careers. Only think is if Tyson hit Ali it could be a KO...I just don't think he could have connected Ali was just to quick on his feet. Around the end of career when he started the rope-a-dope stuff he should have retired, as he had slowed down considerably.
@very-rustysaid I would disagree Ali would have beat him when they were both in their Prime and later. I watched pretty well all of both their fights at the beginning and during their boxing careers. Only think is if Tyson hit Ali it could be a KO...I just don't think he could have connected Ali was just to quick on his feet. Around the end of career when he started the rope-a-dope stuff he should have retired, as he had slowed down considerably.
-VR
Ali used the rope-a-dope against Foreman
it was beautiful
@lemondropsaid Ali used the rope-a-dope against Foreman
it was beautiful
Everyone has their own perception of what a good fight is. Ali really should have retired in my opinion. He started getting a lot of hits to the head that would have never happened when he was in his prime. It is hard to retire when it is in your blood though. (Granted it is one of the most talked about fights and I believe one of the biggest purses in his career)
@divegeestersaid I’m just asking what criteria you are basing this assessment on.
For examples, win ratio, number of wins, number of rounds to win, number of knockouts, number of championship fights, number of title regains, age of title wins, age of last title win, speed of punch, punches given, punches received.
And so on and so forth.
Okay then, apologies.
Tyson's case was unique for me. He obviously had enough stats along with heavyweight champ to be considered one of the greats, but for me it was his menacing walk to the ring putting warranted fear into his opponent that did it for me.
It was the fact he was so feared that attracted people to want to see him destroy his opponents.
I don't think any other fighter in history had that quality to the degree Tyson did.
Tyson's case was unique for me. He obviously had enough stats along with heavyweight champ to be considered one of the greats, but for me it was his menacing walk to the ring putting warranted fear into his opponent that did it for me.
It was the fact he was so feared that attracted people to want to see him destroy his opponents.
I don't think any other fighter in history had that quality to the degree Tyson did.
He lost well over 1in 10 of his pro fights
His record does not stack up against any of the true greats
@chaney3 No, but you need to explain why his relatively poor, at this level, record deserves to be considered.
'He was good until 24, destroying journeyman and has beens, then met some decent fighters and was found out
Don't really do it.
15-20 on all time list of heavyweights is generous
@very-rustysaid You are the one who seemed to have an issue with it Andy? Give me reasons why you don't agree? I believe it is fairly accurate in my opinion.
-VR
I have no issue with your list. I merely asked where it came from.
Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali belong at the top. I would have found a place for Rocky Marciano.
Mike Tyson
15 Aug '19 22:34
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