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Originally posted by gambit3
Guild Wars is a MMORPG. I do not know about Dragon Lords. I rejected Guild Wars because of a review where a player stated that he maxed three characters in a few weeks. In six months of playing EverQuest I was still a level ten Wizard. I gave up and started a Mage. I was new to the game and was solo most of the time. I thought power leveling was group playin ...[text shortened]... ad. There are better games then Guild Wars. Then again what is good in a game is personal thing.
Guild Wars is specialized for organized group PvP combat. From what I understand, the PvE aspect is pretty lame. I want both 🙁.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Guild Wars is specialized for organized group PvP combat. From what I understand, the PvE aspect is pretty lame. I want both 🙁.
Too me it is not a true role play game without pve play. Too me Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is the best RPG ever. In it there is a story a quest and adventure. This is pve. Any pvp in this may result in imprisonment, death, or a fine. You may be wanted by the law and have bounty hunters after you. You may have the dead player's friends hire a assassin to kill you. Death in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is just that. Death means that you are D E A D.

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Originally posted by gambit3
Too me it is not a true role play game without pve play. Too me Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is the best RPG ever. In it there is a story a quest and adventure. This is pve. Any pvp in this may result in imprisonment, death, or a fine. You may be wanted by the law and have bounty hunters after you. You may have the dead player's friends hire a assassin to kill you. Death in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is just that. Death means that you are D E A D.
Sounds good! I don't like the D&D system though.

They have perma-death? That doesn't sound like D&D. Raising the dead is always easy in D&D games.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Sounds good! I don't like the D&D system though.

They have perma-death? That doesn't sound like D&D. Raising the dead is always easy in D&D games.
It is true that a Most High Cleric can raise the dead. Until that happens a dead character is dead. There are at least three Magic User spell that are worse then death.

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Originally posted by gambit3
Too me it is not a true role play game without pve play. Too me Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is the best RPG ever. In it there is a story a quest and adventure. This is pve. Any pvp in this may result in imprisonment, death, or a fine. You may be wanted by the law and have bounty hunters after you. You may have the dead player's friends hire a assassin to kill you. Death in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is just that. Death means that you are D E A D.
AD&D actually sucked if you tried to play it. Books and books of rules and two minutes into the session the DM would be making up rules because in all those books they never actually covered mechanics for simple things that any right minded adventurer would want to do.
The quest and adventure would really depend on the skill of the DM.

And in AD&D death didn't mean death. It meant paying a paltry fee to get raised.

(If you aren't talking about pen and paper AD&D then just stop talking)

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
AD&D actually sucked if you tried to play it. Books and books of rules and two minutes into the session the DM would be making up rules because in all those books they never actually covered mechanics for simple things that any right minded adventurer would want to do.
The quest and adventure would really depend on the skill of the DM.

And in AD&D dea ...[text shortened]... fee to get raised.

(If you aren't talking about pen and paper AD&D then just stop talking)
I think he's talking about

http://www.ddo.com/

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While a player can be raied from the dead a Dungeon Master can stop it from happening. A roll that the character's god will not allow it is one way to stop it. The Dungeon Master can start raising the fee for the spell till it is not so easy a thing too do. The raise the dead spell may be limited to one time a year. These are just a few ways to limit raising dead characters.

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Originally posted by gambit3
While a player can be raied from the dead a Dungeon Master can stop it from happening. A roll that the character's god will not allow it is one way to stop it. The Dungeon Master can start raising the fee for the spell till it is not so easy a thing too do. The raise the dead spell may be limited to one time a year. These are just a few ways to limit raising dead characters.
AD&D has been dead for years. It's D&D 3.5 now.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
AD&D has been dead for years. It's D&D 3.5 now.
I refuse to call it any other thing. I also say mailman and newspaperboy.

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Originally posted by gambit3
While a player can be raied from the dead a Dungeon Master can stop it from happening. A roll that the character's god will not allow it is one way to stop it. The Dungeon Master can start raising the fee for the spell till it is not so easy a thing too do. The raise the dead spell may be limited to one time a year. These are just a few ways to limit raising dead characters.
Are you talking about the MMORPG Dungeons and Dragons Online or are you talking about tabletop roleplaying?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Are you talking about the MMORPG Dungeons and Dragons Online or are you talking about tabletop roleplaying?
Pen and paper in the last few statements. The online game seems to be way short of what it could be. I rated the online game a 5 in my preliminary search. Some of those games are made for future advanced graphics and rated poor on the graphics. Horizons I think was set to take future graphics tech. Set that game on full ability and your computer will have some trouble.

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I'm playing EVE Online right now. EXCELLENT game so far. Very, very good. I just wish it was fantasy instead of space ships 🙁.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I'm playing EVE Online right now. EXCELLENT game so far. Very, very good. I just wish it was fantasy instead of space ships 🙁.
Everyone dies because elves can't live in space.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I'm playing EVE Online right now. EXCELLENT game so far. Very, very good. I just wish it was fantasy instead of space ships 🙁.
Eve Online and Guild Wars have the highest score at 8.3 . I think I will pass on Eve Online as it is not a role play. To me role play means " Swords and Sorcery". I would play a war game like World War Two Online if I could be in the Air Force and fly a P51 D Mustang. Too bad Advanced Third Reich is not online.