more formal than "if"

ivan2908

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03 Feb 09 11:09

ivan2908

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03 Feb 09 11:09

Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?

Natsia

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03 Feb 09 12:12

Originally posted by ivan2908
Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/if

"Main Entry: if
Part of Speech: conjunction
Definition: provided that
Synonyms: with the condition that, supposing that, conceding that, on the assumption that, granted that, assuming that, on the occasion that, whenever, wherever, in case that "

coquette

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04 Feb 09 14:28

"as if"

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04 Feb 09 14:31

Originally posted by ivan2908
Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?

Are you the new Grampy Bobby?

Get a coffee, consult a doctor about your medication dosage, put the bong down... do something.

P-

HandyAndy

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04 Feb 09 15:39

Sometimes "if" means "whenever." Sometimes it doesn't. For example:

If (or whenever) I drink, I pay for it the next day.

If I were you, I would avoid liquor and stick to coffee.

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04 Feb 09 15:49

Originally posted by Natsia
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/if

"Main Entry: if
Part of Speech: conjunction
Definition: provided that
Synonyms: with the condition that, supposing that, conceding that, on the assumption that, granted that, assuming that, on the occasion that, whenever, wherever, in case that "

If only that were complete.

Grampy Bobby

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04 Feb 09 16:05

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?

The construct "if" in human thought is most always conditional. Some languages of the civilized world, including the Koine Greek (common

language of the streets) allow for its expression, even though usage within contemporary American/English doesn't. Four qualifier nuances

I'm aware of: 1st Class- If and it's true; 2nd- If and it's not true; 3rd- If and it may be true; 4th- If and I wish it were but know it's not true.

huckleberryhound

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04 Feb 09 16:07

Ifality.

I just heard a politician yesterday talking about the social partnership talks "coming to finality".......AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH. MUPPET !!!!!

Grampy Bobby

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04 Feb 09 16:12

Originally posted by coquette
"as if"

Yes, always been fascinated with small word phrases such as "as if" and "what if" which expand focus and promote untold possibilities.

Grampy Bobby

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04 Feb 09 16:18

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Are you the new Grampy Bobby?P-

What you imply is certainly true. Everybody's got to be somebody. Everybody's got to be somewhere... and eventually comes out of the game.

ivan2908

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04 Feb 09 16:22

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Are you the new Grampy Bobby?

Get a coffee, consult a doctor about your medication dosage, put the bong down... do something.

P-

Now that a bit harsh, isn't it ? I was writting a letter and I wanted the letter to sound good. Where's the problem ? I know that people here speak English fluently so I wanted to check.

I know that you play guitar. Me also so if you asked some question about music theory or chords I would anwser to you and try to help you with a sentence or two while avoiding unnecessary whinning, Mr. Forum Comentator.

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04 Feb 09 16:42

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Grampy Bobby

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04 Feb 09 16:56

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Now that a bit harsh, isn't it ? I was writting a letter and I wanted the letter to sound good. Where's the problem ? I know that people here speak English fluently so I wanted to check.

I know that you play guitar. Me also so if you asked some question about music theory or chords I would anwser to you and try to help you with a sentence or two while avoiding unnecessary whinning, Mr. Forum Comentator.

Ivan, context often determines correct wording. If you're at liberty to do so, please post the (problem) sentence your're constructing. Thanks.

Edit: Recasting your sentence to eliminate the informal 'if' and replacing it with 'shall I' or 'should I', etc., may offer the solution

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04 Feb 09 17:02

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Ivan, context often determines correct wording. If you're at liberty to do so, please post the (problem) sentence your're constructing. Thanks.

Edit: Recasting your sentence to eliminate the informal 'if' and replacing it with 'shall I' or 'should I', etc., may offer the solution

If is an integral component of life.

ivan2908

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04 Feb 09 17:12

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Ivan, context often determines correct wording. If you're at liberty to do so, please post the (problem) sentence your're constructing. Thanks.

Edit: Recasting your sentence to eliminate the informal 'if' and replacing it with 'shall I' or 'should I', etc., may offer the solution

Thanks for the help but I managed to solve my "problem" by asking help from English language teacher at the university. So everything fine now and letter sent. 🙂

That "if" was just a detail but I like details, especially if I am writting something important.