04 Aug 05
My boss wants me to learn:
FINAL CUT PRO HD - a film editing suite
PRO TOOLS HD - a sound recording facility like Cubase, but more complicated!
and
she wants me to become a Studio Cameraman.
All this to such a standard that I can teach Masters and Phd students.
I only get paid about 16K a year - should I ask for a big payrise?!!!
How much would all this knowledge be worth?
What do you know, and how much do you think it's worth in salary?
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by FavsWell, it depends where you work. I used ot work as a runner and junior studio engineer at a studio and I still use applications like Pro Tools at home. These are the sort of skills which, in the recording industry, you are expected to learn for nothing, they are almost pre-requiste hobbies. However, if you are learning them for educational means rather than to wrok hands on in a studio, I would suggest that those skills are very sellable. You could go work for the BBC in an editing suite and make way more money.
My boss wants me to learn:
FINAL CUT PRO HD - a film editing suite
PRO TOOLS HD - a sound recording facility like Cubase, but more complicated!
and
she wants me to become a Studio Cameraman.
All this to such a standard that I can teach Masters and Phd students.
I only get paid about 16K a year - should I ask for a big payrise?!!!
How much would ...[text shortened]... l this knowledge be worth?
What do you know, and how much do you think it's worth in salary?
If you are teaching Masters students numerous vocationally specialised skills which you could take elsewhere and earn more money, I'd be asking for £30k, though it depends on where you work/live and how long it will be before you are proficient.
I envy you, you'll be getting your own Pro Tools... git!
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by FavsWell I know a guy who bought pro tools, it cost 12,000 bucks.
My boss wants me to learn:
FINAL CUT PRO HD - a film editing suite
PRO TOOLS HD - a sound recording facility like Cubase, but more complicated!
and
she wants me to become a Studio Cameraman.
All this to such a standard that I can teach Masters and Phd students.
I only get paid about 16K a year - should I ask for a big payrise?!!!
How much would ...[text shortened]... l this knowledge be worth?
What do you know, and how much do you think it's worth in salary?
I did some session work with Jodee James at his studio and I got to
talking to him and he said he has been learning pro tools for
4 years and still doesn't know it all. So it seems to me to be getting
16K a year, 8 bucks an hour and to be told to learn something
so difficult is not reasonable. People go to berkelee in Boston
for 4 years to learn that stuff. I know, my daughter Heather did
just that and got her masters in music at Weslyan and one of her
jobs there was setting up a 30 million dollar recording studio, so
she represented 6 years of college training to do just that, so
tell your boss you should get a raise. Of course she will just say, sure
you get a raise, AFTER you learn Pro tools....
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by FavsDepends if you get any good at it 🙂
My boss wants me to learn:
FINAL CUT PRO HD - a film editing suite
PRO TOOLS HD - a sound recording facility like Cubase, but more complicated!
and
she wants me to become a Studio Cameraman.
All this to such a standard that I can teach Masters and Phd students.
I only get paid about 16K a year - should I ask for a big payrise?!!!
How much would ...[text shortened]... l this knowledge be worth?
What do you know, and how much do you think it's worth in salary?
Sounds like free training. You could look for a better paying job elsewhere later. Otherwise I think ask for at least double your salary!
04 Aug 05
BTW anyone have any comments on the differances between pro tools
and Sonar and Cubase?
I have a home studio based on Sonar and have followed Cakewalk
since the 4.5 version so don't know much about the rest of the
recording world. Any big advantages of one over the other?
I use a dell with a second HD and RME digiface I/O soundcard
and a Mackie board with Rode NT1000 large diaphram mike and
a Project studio C3 and other nice smaller mikes.
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by sonhouseNever used Sonar, Cubase is still (IMO) a poor version of Logic (Though I reccomend checking out Steinberg's Nuendo 2, if you're into using other media like video etc.) which is basically better and more user friendly and still uses VST plugins. Pro Tools is the Don if you work in audio, I dream of a day where I can afford a Pro Tools HD (http://www.protools.com/products/hd/images/192.jpg) and run Pro Tools TDM. Sigh... why can't I have a rich dying relative? 🙁
BTW anyone have any comments on the differances between pro tools
and Sonar and Cubase?
I have a home studio based on Sonar and have followed Cakewalk
since the 4.5 version so don't know much about the rest of the
recording world. Any big advantages of one over the other?
I use a dell with a second HD and RME digiface I/O soundcard
and a Mackie board with Rode NT1000 large diaphram mike and
a Project studio C3 and other nice smaller mikes.
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by StarrmanAin't that the truth. One of the things I found out about Sonar
Never used Sonar, Cubase is still (IMO) a poor version of Logic (Though I reccomend checking out Steinberg's Nuendo 2, if you're into using other media like video etc.) which is basically better and more user friendly and still uses VST plugins. Pro Tools is the Don if you work in audio, I dream of a day where I can afford a Pro Tools HD (http://www.prot ...[text shortened]... s/hd/images/192.jpg) and run Pro Tools TDM. Sigh... why can't I have a rich dying relative? 🙁
is when you do a cut and paste, you know, where you made a goof
but the rest of the cut is ok and you want to replace only a couple
of seconds of sound, I hear the differance in background ambient
in the two cuts, like now the musical mistake is fixed but you hear
not a click or any of those artifacts but the background sounds
differant which I don't see how it could possibly be helped, I am in
a home situation and recording at 2 am is maybe a bit differant
backgroundwise than doing a snippet at 3 am.
Anyone seen that problem? The only thing that seems to help is
if its not a solo track, the second or third track covers up the small
differance I hear, so maybe its not a big deal after all.
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by sonhouseThe only thing I can suggest is that you attempt to minimise background noise to near zero. If you can't do this prior to recording, you may be able to use some plugins (a de-noiser for example) to reduce it. Then it won't be of such importance.
Ain't that the truth. One of the things I found out about Sonar
is when you do a cut and paste, you know, where you made a goof
but the rest of the cut is ok and you want to replace only a couple
of seconds of sound, I hear the differance in background ambient
in the two cuts, like now the musical mistake is fixed but you hear
not a click or any of th ...[text shortened]... nd or third track covers up the small
differance I hear, so maybe its not a big deal after all.
04 Aug 05
Originally posted by StarrmanYeah thats a thought, I have sony sonic foundry which has noise
The only thing I can suggest is that you attempt to minimise background noise to near zero. If you can't do this prior to recording, you may be able to use some plugins (a de-noiser for example) to reduce it. Then it won't be of such importance.
reduction stuff. Ever use Antares Auto Tune?
05 Aug 05
Originally posted by StarrmanYou can get £30k for teaching Masters students but starting salary for a Uni lecturer is only around £25k, depending on age and experience.
If you are teaching Masters students numerous vocationally specialised skills which you could take elsewhere and earn more money, I'd be asking for £30k, though it depends on where you work/live and how long it will be before you are proficient.