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f

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dont know if this is the right place for this, but anyway. doesnt it drive you vrazy when you have an oponent who cannot win, where there is no way out of checkmate in a few moves, and they do notmake their moves as fast as you want and they dont resign? I am playing this guy who is loosing and has no way of winning, on a 7 day timeout. the game has been going on now for 5 months. i asked his if he would make his move, and he got all shirty, and has dileberately not taken resignation or even moved. Jan wenting - dont play him!

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If it were me, I think i`d resign just to get out of it. I`ve played a few games with people like that, but it doesn`t reall bother me that much. I just go and find some more games πŸ˜‰

f

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its a points thing. whilst its great to play, im sure we all play to win! and points mean prizes. when i see a potential good win against a much higherrated apponant, who is refusing to play almost , as if they are wiaiting till their points drop so its notso painful - how sad is that? i mean, when you have go to next game and you dont play that game, you have to go back to your games each time. There isntan option to go to the next game is there?!

Marinkatomb
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What i do in this situation is simple.

Once i have realized my opponent is going to drag out the game, i spend 10-20 minutes analysing the game. I will record the strongest lines i can find in the Notebook and leave the game in 'MY Games'.

Yes, it is annoying when you have 50 games in your inbox, but if the game is won and you have made a few notes to remind yourself of your strategy, it'll only take a few minutes to update the game in future.

C
Not Aleister

Control room

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20 janwenting 1327 850 447 74 43860 690 30 Apr '04 01:14

Number 20 MAP dragging out a game?
Weird πŸ˜•

Ravello
The RudeΒ©

who knows?

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Originally posted by Crowley
20 janwenting 1327 850 447 74 43860 690 30 Apr '04 01:14

Number 20 MAP dragging out a game?
Weird πŸ˜•
And he's the leader of Fast player's clan............

p
Happy Hour Hero.

Albuquerque, NM

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I don't think it matters. He can't make more than 2 moves before you get him. Surely, that many points on a sure bet is worth waiting for...

r

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I've played janwenting twice and experienced no problem with the timeliness of his moves.

-Ray.

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Shut Gorohoviy!

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Originally posted by fireflyze
i mean, when you have go to next game and you dont play that game, you have to go back to your games each time. There isntan option to go to the next game is there?!
Yes there is,there is the skip button,located in the lower left corner of the box that has the 'message opponent' and 'notebook' etc....

T

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Originally posted by fireflyze
.... i asked his if he would make his move, and he got all shirty...
Perhaps he simply thought you rude and is taking revenge?

It certainly isn't good manners to suggest to somebody that they resign: that's their choice and their choice only.

Granted, if it was blindingly obvious that they were going to loose, a pointlessly continuing game can be a bit annoying, but those are the rules you signed up to. Just note their name and don't play them again.

And don't message them when you mate them either. Bad winners are worse than bad loosers.

j

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I am a bit surprised, that quite a few players of RedHotPawn are talking behind my back about my way of playing. Rgoudie seemed to have no problem with me and Toe made a point, that I also wrote back, that you never can ask an opponent to resign.

I used to play much faster (twice MAP of the month last year), but play my games now with a move timeout of 7 days.

In being a clanleader and teamleader on another site of large teams, I do play slowly now in ALL my games. Players that have nearly won, always think I do that only in their games to stall, but that is not the case. I will try to move faster in the future.

Next time somebody has something to say to me, I would appreciate that he or she sends me a message.

Jan Wenting

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One of my and Jan's mutual friends pointed me here.

I have been Jan's chess pal since I started and I can tell you he's a great guy who has taught me a lot.

First, he has taught me to always look for a better move. Second, he has taught me the other player can always make a mistake, to wait for it, and I have won a lot of games because of this attitude. You can sometimes get a stalemate through your opponent's carelessness.

Edmond Dantes (former #1 on the site) also left me with some advice before he left. He told me the story of two grandmasters playing two bishops and a king against a king. When everyone pressured the one to resign and asked why he played on, he said "I do not know how to mate with two bishops. My opponent will teach me." So, I resign very sparingly because I can always learn something. Unfortunately, it is a few extra moves at my opponent's expense.

Aside from all this, Jan works pretty hard arranging games for his clan-mates so 20 other players and a bunch from other clanmembers can have a good competitive experience on RHP. I'm sure that takes some time and commitment.

And then you get on the forum and dump on him. That must feel great for you but not for Jan. Fireflyze, what do you do for other players on RHP? This?

Just don't play Jan again if you don't like his style, but the rest of us sure don't mind playing him. And he's a great guy. Keep your defamation to yourself. There are 10000 other people to play in this world.

I have a few games I feel are dragging out. I move several times a day. Maybe the guys are busy, maybe they are dragging it out, whatever. But, they sit on the bottom of my game roster and in no way affect me (and never would unless I was obsessive-compulsive or something).

In the grand scheme of life, I'll just wait for those players to make those moves another day, increase my game load if I feel I need to play more, then go for a game of golf and see some sun, have some pizza and beer afterwards or something, maybe try to chat with some beautiful woman.

Please sit on here and post about other players and your irritations all day, OK? More tee-off times, sunshine, O2, beer, pizza and everything else for the rest of us.

qlotsberg

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Death from Above

El Paso, TX

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Originally posted by qlotsberg
One of my and Jan's mutual friends pointed me here.

I have been Jan's chess pal since I started and I can tell you he's a great guy who has taught me a lot.

First, he has taught me to always look for a better move. Second, he has taught me the other player can always make a mistake, to wait for it, and I have won a lot of games because of this ...[text shortened]... re tee-off times, sunshine, O2, beer, pizza and everything else for the rest of us.

qlotsberg
Good Post.πŸ˜€

f

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i see your points you make, and yes errors can be made. This game was impossible for my opponent to win in the last few moves - check it out yourself. I sent a messege, as I do with most of the people that I play, simply noticing that he was on the site yet not making a move. The response was negative. I myself would have responded, that yes I was screwed and maybe its time to end the game. I was noticing that the points of my opponent were dropping, and ummiused the strategy was a waiting game ot lessen the effect - fair play again?

I loose many of my games. when i play well and win against a higher rated apponent, i want to get the reward, which is a good win, and some points. I find it just as bad for me when i loose points and games.

Deformation is a bit strong, anybody reading these strings can see two sides. Im sure hes a nice guy, and i will take the points on board from the strings, like use the notebook, and never play that opponent again!

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