WHilst mullin through my childhood stamp collection, I came across a penny black. i was wondering how to determine how much the little fella is worth. Judging by ebay and stamp collectors catalogues, it could be worth anything from £5 to £50,000. What distinguishing features determine the value of this small treasure?
Originally posted by jimslyp69The plate numbers and letters in the 4 corners of the stamp determine the value..... and then its the condition...if its mint...yippee!
WHilst mullin through my childhood stamp collection, I came across a penny black. i was wondering how to determine how much the little fella is worth. Judging by ebay and stamp collectors catalogues, it could be worth anything from £5 to £50,000. What distinguishing features determine the value of this small treasure?
and if it's not, how much or little' preferably, they have have hand stamped the penny black. Bless em!
Stanley Gibbons (The Stamp People) will sort it for u.
Good luck! Mines worth nish! 😉😲
Originally posted by BobskiWell it's got A B B A from the top left down to bottom right. It is discoloured, although I though any stamp of that age would go a bit brown. It has a great big black splodge of a stamp right on the queen's face and slight wear round the edges. Other thsan that it is very neat and uncreased. How much will ya offer me for it Bobski? 🙄
The plate numbers and letters in the 4 corners of the stamp determine the value..... and then its the condition...if its mint...yippee!
and if it's not, how much or little' preferably, they have have hand stamped the penny black. Bless em!
Stanley Gibbons (The Stamp People) will sort it for u.
Good luck! Mines worth nish! 😉😲
Originally posted by jimslyp69Is she a dancing queen?
Well it's got A B B A from the top left down to bottom right. It is discoloured, although I though any stamp of that age would go a bit brown. It has a great big black splodge of a stamp right on the queen's face and slight wear round the edges. Other thsan that it is very neat and uncreased. How much will ya offer me for it Bobski? 🙄
Originally posted by jimslyp69Are you sure its a penny black? As far as I remember they were only lettered on bottom corners, not top.
Well it's got A B B A from the top left down to bottom right. It is discoloured, although I though any stamp of that age would go a bit brown. It has a great big black splodge of a stamp right on the queen's face and slight wear round the edges. Other thsan that it is very neat and uncreased. How much will ya offer me for it Bobski? 🙄
Also you will need to identify what plate number it comes from as this will have a bearing on value.
The black splodge you describe is probably a Maltese cross cancellation.
It is unlikely your stamp will be worth more than a years subscription to RHP based on how you describe its condition.
http://www.qvpennies.com/1d_Blacks/1d_blacks.htm will give you more info and pictures to allow you to compare your stamp to what the dealers sell!
Originally posted by adramforallA whole year's free subscription?! Whoot!
Are you sure its a penny black? As far as I remember they were only lettered on bottom corners, not top.
Also you will need to identify what plate number it comes from as this will have a bearing on value.
The black splodge you describe is probably a Maltese cross cancellation.
It is unlikely your stamp will be worth more than a years subscrip ...[text shortened]... ill give you more info and pictures to allow you to compare your stamp to what the dealers sell!
But seriously, yes I know it's probably worth a fiver, but it would be nice to know. It's a penny red btw and not a penny black. See above.
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Originally posted by jimslyp69If that's what you have it's a red 1858-1869. The number in the squiggly lines is the plate number. This number can be looked up to see how much it is worth. A lot of this type (16,000,000) were printed but some of the plates only produced a few stamps before the plate was scrapped.
Is this number in the loops in the squiggly pattern around the edge?
Another thing you can look at is the water mark. Shine a torch though it.
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Originally posted by Grandmaster baterI can't see this watermark. i know there's supposed to be one but I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to be looking for. phlphlb phl, I'm goig crosseyed.
If that's what you have it's a red 1858-1869. The number in the squiggly lines is the plate number. This number can be looked up to see how much it is worth. A lot of this type (16,000,000) were printed but some of the plates only produced a few stamps before the plate was scrapped.
Another thing you can look at is the water mark. Shine a torch though it.
EDIT: think I've found it. Looks like a king on a classic chess board diagram.
Originally posted by Matt HortinCan almost guarantee its not a plate 77 lol
Fingers crossed it's a number 77 (£80000ish).
Best he can hope for is a Plate 225.
There are so many on eBay its not real. A massive 50 can be had for just £2.70 at present (just over 5p each).
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Queen-Victoria-1d-red-50-penny-reds_W0QQitemZ9514207294QQcategoryZ23740QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem