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    12 Sep '13 05:35
    Originally posted by e4chris
    People are less judgemental / more perceptive when they're young...?
    I thought you were talking about Myers Briggs profiling, but now you seem to be making sweeping generalisations.
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    12 Sep '13 06:53
    "Carl Jung's theory of psychological types says each person is "wired" with different tendencies and preferences."

    To me that suggests that psychological types are innate and can only be modified "on the margins", for example, you can study the classifications of each answer and attempt to modify your behaviour patterns somewhat. I believe the same goes for IQ, you really can't change it all that much. I once tutored an IQ-85 for a couple of months with a view to her passing a particular job entry test; we found that with a lot of work we could get her to 95 (although not to 100, no matter what we did) and that a three-day break would drop her back to 90, a week and she was 85 again. We were using a very large book of reputable standard IQ tests which the employer was also using.
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    12 Sep '13 11:231 edit
    Originally posted by Kewpie
    "Carl Jung's theory of psychological types says each person is "wired" with different tendencies and preferences."

    To me that suggests that psychological types are innate and can only be modified "on the margins", for example, you can study the classifications of each answer and attempt to modify your behaviour patterns somewhat. I believe the same goes f sing a very large book of reputable standard IQ tests which the employer was also using.
    Additionally, significant personality behavioral change can't be imposed externally. Internal renovation is required to transform norms and standards, points of view, hypersensitivities to self, insensitivity to others, values and priorities. As either Will Rogers or Mark Twain observed, 'We're all ignorant on different subjects': IQ, such as it is, may be applied to greater or lesser degrees depending on the motivation and work ethic of the individual. Also, High IQ often lacks consistently sound judgment in practical matters (as is the case with my daughter, Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded 165).
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    12 Sep '13 12:27
    And "WE" need this why?
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    12 Sep '13 12:461 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Additionally, significant personality behavioral change can't be imposed externally. Internal renovation is required to transform norms and standards, points of view, hypersensitivities to self, insensitivity to others, values and priorities. As either Will Rogers or Mark Twain observed, 'We're all ignorant on different subjects': IQ, such as it is, may ...[text shortened]... ctical matters (as is the case with my daughter, Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded 165).
    I understand every word you say but not put together like that... 🙂
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    12 Sep '13 15:05
    ENFP, but I've taken that test before.
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    12 Sep '13 15:14
    Originally posted by lolof
    I understand every word you say but not put together like that... 🙂
    Maybe in your own words: "....
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    12 Sep '13 15:36
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Maybe in your own words: "....
    Let me try.

    Personality behavioral change bla bla bla hypersensitivities to self bla bla bla Will Rogers
    or Mark Twain bla bla bla Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded bla bla bla...

    How's that?
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    12 Sep '13 15:42
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Let me try.

    Personality behavioral change bla bla bla hypersensitivities to self bla bla bla Will Rogers
    or Mark Twain bla bla bla Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded bla bla bla...

    How's that?
    I get everything but the bla bla bla. Is that Swedish?
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    12 Sep '13 18:442 edits
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Let me try.

    Personality behavioral change bla bla bla hypersensitivities to self bla bla bla Will Rogers
    or Mark Twain bla bla bla Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded bla bla bla...

    How's that?
    My only daughter would not take too kindly to her name and person
    being appropriated for an ill tempered rant and public derision.
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    12 Sep '13 20:461 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    My only daughter would not take too kindly to her name and person
    being appropriated for an ill tempered rant and public derision.
    Your only daughter? It was you who injected her name, not me.

    Ill temper? I was merely trying to translate your turgid gobbledygook.

    Is it an excerpt from Finnegans Wake?
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    12 Sep '13 21:222 edits
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Your only daughter? It was you who injected her name, not me.

    Ill temper? I was merely trying to translate your turgid gobbledygook.

    Is it an excerpt from Finnegans Wake?
    "Also, High IQ often lacks consistently sound judgment in practical matters (as is the case with my daughter, Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded 165)." (original reply)

    "Let me try.

    Personality behavioral change bla bla bla hypersensitivities to self bla bla bla Will Rogers
    or Mark Twain bla bla bla Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded bla bla bla...

    How's that?" (HandyAndy)
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    The reply is on topic; there's absolutely no cause for the illustration of its closing comment which references one of my two children to provoke disrespect. Neither her age, nor race or gender provide justification for an unthinking, crude reply.
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    12 Sep '13 21:33
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    The reply is on topic; there's absolutely no cause for the illustration of its closing comment which references one of my two children to provoke disrespect. Neither her age, nor race or gender provide justification for an unthinking, crude reply.
    I agree. Why do you continue to embarrass her in public?
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    12 Sep '13 22:11
    Hasn't IQ been shown to be a rather poor method of measuring intelligence anyway? I'm not sure that quoting IQ scores, high or low has any usefulness at all. They might be a fun diversion, but don't reflect the latest research on intelligence.
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    13 Sep '13 00:15
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Additionally, significant personality behavioral change can't be imposed externally. Internal renovation is required to transform norms and standards, points of view, hypersensitivities to self, insensitivity to others, values and priorities. As either Will Rogers or Mark Twain observed, 'We're all ignorant on different subjects': IQ, such as it is, may ...[text shortened]... ctical matters (as is the case with my daughter, Heidi Lynn, whose tests have exceeded 165).
    I'm not sure how Myers Briggs and IQ relate, it does measure 'geekness' but not intelligence, I know its used to fit people into the right jobs. Worked for me, I didn't think much of the test when I took it, but the profile was so uncanny and most people thought so.

    This is a great website for describing the different types - doesn't have the test but the profiles are great -

    > http://www.personalitypage.com/ENFP.html

    🙂
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