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Originally posted by SuzianneSomehow I thought only us Swedish folks grew up with the stories about
Now, Pippi Longstocking, I know. I had several of the books when I was a little girl.
the independant, strong, self-reliant and incredibly amusing Pippi. It's
fun that she's known outside our borders. Apparently, she's known over
half the world.
What do you think about those chidren books? I know they have
received critique for not really teaching children anything of real use in
life, but I personally think that's wrong. Sure, there's a lot of fun
nonsense in those books, but there's also the fact that here we have a
child, a little girl, who won't let anyone push her down (not even the law
enforcement).
That's positive. Right?
Originally posted by stockenThis is always how Pippi was presented to me. My mom always made a big deal over how "independent, strong and self-reliant" Pippi was, and that anyone (even a little girl) can do almost anything they set their minds to.
Somehow I thought only us Swedish folks grew up with the stories about
the independant, strong, self-reliant and incredibly amusing Pippi. It's
fun that she's known outside our borders. Apparently, she's known over
half the world.
What do you think about those chidren books? I know they have
received critique for not really teaching children any ...[text shortened]... 't let anyone push her down (not even the law
inforcement).
That's positive. Right?
Yes, Stocken, that is a very positive message... especially for little girls.
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Originally posted by SuzianneYou know, the reason I started the Bamse thread and this one is
This is always how Pippi was presented to me. My mom always made a big deal over how "independent, strong and self-reliant" Pippi was, and that anyone (even a little girl) can do almost anything they set their minds to.
Yes, Stocken, that is a very positive message... especially for little girls.
because I sat down and read about those characters in a magazine here
in Swedish and I realised how much those stories has affected me as a
person. Especially Bamse, the strongest bear in the world who's at the
same time the kindest. In one episode vargen (The wolf) steals x-mas
presents from Bamse (that later turns out to be vargens own presents)
and lille skutt (Little Frisky) thinks that Bamse should spank vargen to
teach him a lesson, on which Bamse replies: "Hitting people will not
make them nicer".
This line of reasoning, that only through kindness and understanding can
you really reach out to others and get kindness in return, has been part
of me ever since I was a child and I never really realised from where it
came. It's those children stories (Pippi, Bamse and a few others
that I'm sure haven't reached outside Sweden).
I don't know if I should feel manipulated; brainwashed or grateful. I
guess, seeing as how well I'm doing in life because of this attitude, I
should be grateful.
Originally posted by stockenPippi Langstrumpf! Of course! I think the first "real" book (i.e. not a picture book or a book with very little text) I read all on my own was a Pippi book. We had several other books by Astrid Lindgren, too. I liked most of them a lot.
Is she really known outside Sweden? 😕
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippi_L%C3%A5ngstrump
Originally posted by stockenIt helps to remember that the job of giving us values to carry through life is not the job of the school system, or society at large, but the job of our parents. If we're lucky, they do their job well, instilling virtues and values in us, whether we want to learn them or not. Often, this means sneaking them under our brainwash radar in the form of stories, books or cartoons. Same goes for all the fairy tales and bedtime stories we all heard as kids. Thank goodness most of our parents actually did a good job of it.
You know, the reason I started the Bamsy thread and this one is
because I sat down and read about those characters in a magazine here
in Swedish and I realised how much those stories has affected me as a
person. Especially Bamsy, the strongest bear in the world who's at the
same time the kindest. In one episode vargen (The wolf) steals x-mas
presen ...[text shortened]... seeing as how well I'm doing in life because of this attitude, I
should be grateful.
Originally posted by wormwoodI don't think they were very well-known in Germany when I grew up, but my sister got a "Mumin" (as he's called in German) book from her godmother who is married to a Norwegian. I didn't like it as a child, I found the pictures confusing and scary. But I met the Moomin family again when I moved to Norway and have read several books, and I am a bit surprised that I didn't like it as a child. One child I worked with loved them, and we always spent a long time on the good-bye song because we had to sing for Mummi, Mummimamma, Mummipappa, lille My etc. 🙂
how about the finnish 'moomin'?